Tank Is becoming the PPV King

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  1. McGrain

    McGrain Diamond Dog Staff Member

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    Right. So they'll keep it in the family. Which is what I said in my first post.
     
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  2. DoubleJab666

    DoubleJab666 Dot, dot, dot... Full Member

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    Very good point. You can't on one hand declare someone as THE PPV star of boxing - or close to - and then say a fight can't be made with said fighter because the other boxer isn't box office enough. That's the equation for good old fashioned ducking....
     
  3. McGrain

    McGrain Diamond Dog Staff Member

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    The thing that bothers me is that the PPV stars tend to be the guys who will box anyone, or almost anyone. Gatti. Oscar. Manny. Guys in that mold. But we've had one PPV start who arguably didn't do that, and that's Mayweather. Mayweather very much controlled his opposition.

    He still built an incredible resume, and is, to me, the clear number one p4p fighter of his era, but I personally don't like him as a promoter or manager. Because he will look to handle his charges in the same way his own career developed. That was right for Mayweather, but it may not be right for the guys he's working with. Or, maybe it will be.

    Tank, certainly, is likely to maximise income while minimising risk. There is a new generation of fans who seem stirred by that...count me out though.

    All that said, it is early for Tank. They might just be steering him clear of the best fighters for a spell while they work on stuff including dollars.
     
  4. DoubleJab666

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    PPVism had been redefined in the past decade whereby a boxer's value seems to be assessed by remaining unbeaten rather than who they beat. And it's Floyd's career which seemingly has prompted this shift - and I'm not slating him; he's an ATG who beat a large number of great fighters before his focus became entirely about keeping his '0' (his Bert-o).

    I think Tank's career has almost become an extension of Floyd's - like if he loses somehow Floyd takes a loss too. The last few years of his boxing career has shaped the way he promotes, and Tank is suffering - not financially - but in terms of testing his talent against the kind of opponent which might bring the best out of a very good boxer.

    It's a shame but there's little doubt he's being protected and, by proxy, Floyd's own legacy is too. You'd think Floyd would have learned from what happened to Canelo after he beat him, but no the obsession with the '0' remains. Pretty Boy would have promoted Tank entirely differently but Money Mayweather has another mentality...
     
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  5. African Cobra

    African Cobra The Right Honourable Lord President of the Council Full Member

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    No specifically I am saying they will only take it out of the family when it makes business sense to maximise economic value. You may not like it which I understand but it is what it is.
     
  6. African Cobra

    African Cobra The Right Honourable Lord President of the Council Full Member

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    It’s called risk vs reward.
     
  7. African Cobra

    African Cobra The Right Honourable Lord President of the Council Full Member

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    Thanks at least you are honest enough to admit you don’t like Floyd Money Mayweather as a manager or promoter. To many fighters have left the game and been used up making others rich of their work so I applaud Floyd and PBC for redressing the balance.
     
  8. DoubleJab666

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    I agree... they see Taylor as a potential loss for Tank and not a boxer they want to put their '0' at risk against. Very wise to avoid him based on the way Floyd manages Tank's career...
     
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    African Cobra The Right Honourable Lord President of the Council Full Member

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    JT is a potential loss for any Junior Welterweight as is Tank a potential loss for any fighter or champion from 130-140 pounds. So it makes business sense for this to happen when they can maximise economic value. If Floyd and Pacquiao had fought in 2009 instead of 2015 they won’t have generated $600 Million in revenue. People forget boxing is not just a sport it’s a business. Nothing morally wrong in maximising value.
     
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    You keeping replying with little nuggets like 'It's risk vs reward' or 'people forget boxing is not just a sport, it's a business'.

    We know. I know.

    You seem to have forgotten it's not just a business, it's a sport too. See how easy it is to sound condescending?

    Somewhere in your mind you've elevated yourself to a status of boxing knowledge you are unable to reflect in the words you write, which might start off as interesting and original thoughts but on the journey from brain to fingers transform into well-worn clichés...
     
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  11. Wizbit1013

    Wizbit1013 Drama go, and don't come back Full Member

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    Right moves at right time is code for strategic ducking
     
  12. BubblesUK

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    Potential may be putting it mildly...
     
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  13. African Cobra

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    I know the game son. Just because you don’t like something does not mean you cannot recognize it for what it is. I do know the game which is why I don’t get upset like some about certain things.
     
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    Excellent example. If Davis was fighting Taylor he'd be the B Side in that as well.

    Davis is pretendimg to be a champ in two divisions, but without those victories it stays pretend.
     
  15. African Cobra

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    Being the champion does not make you the A side. Economics determines the A side. This is why all the super Middleweight champions Canelo is fighting are the B side.