Boxing News taking a big stance

Discussion in 'World Boxing Forum' started by lufcrazy, Jul 6, 2021.


  1. Badbot

    Badbot You can just do things.

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    :lol: WHY ARE YOU PEOPLE DEFENDING THE CROOKS THAT ARE THE WBC, WBA, WBO and IBF?
    The **** is wrong with you?
     
  2. McGrain

    McGrain Diamond Dog Staff Member

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    Stockholm syndrome I guess?
     
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  3. Badbot

    Badbot You can just do things.

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    What are you talking about? Rigo last fought at 122 in 2019. And no, he does not hold a WBA title at 122. Akhamadaliev and Figueroa are their champions. Yipee! 2 champs! For no ****ing reason... besides sanctioning fees.

    Pacquiao beat Thurman 2 years ago. He has not had a single fight lined up since then.
    And the WBA stripped him of his titles and gave him the BS "champion in recess" designation.

    You don´t get to blame Covid for 2 years of inactivity. Everyone else had fights. Manny didn´t even have anything lined up. He just sat on the sidelines.

    How is it unreasonable to not rank someone who hasn´t fought in 2 years?
     
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  4. Dubblechin

    Dubblechin Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    I'm sorry, isn't the UK allowing people to gather this month for the first time in a year and a half?

    What planet do you guys live on where everyone in boxing has been so super active in 2020 and 2021 EXCEPT for Manny Pacquaio?

    The Transnational Ratings have Mauris Briedis as the World Champ at Cruiserweight and Artur Beterbiev as the World Champ at Light Heavyweight. When Pac fights Spence next month, Manny will have fought just as many times in the last two years as Mauris and Beterbiev. And neither of them has any fights lined up.

    They removed Pac from the ratings ENTIRELY due to some arbitrary rule they put in place themselves that no one holds them to.

    Ring has no problem rating Pac after having not fought in two years because a goddamn global pandemic was going on. Neither does the WBC or the IBF.

    I'm done arguing. Good luck with the dumb policies.

    And good luck with NOT recognizing the World Welterweight title next month simply because of a rule put in place themselves that no one gives a **** about.

    Can't wait for Boxing News to come out next month and tell everyone why Spence-Pac IS NOT a World Title fight.

    Impeccably bad timing on their part, too.
     
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  5. DoubleJab666

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    Love the stance they taking but maaan... Matt Christie took an eternity to get round to say what this stance would be :lol:

    But yeah, totally agree with the thinking behind Boxing News' decision...
     
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  6. Dubblechin

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    He is fighting next month for the World Welterweight Title. I don't know if you got the memo.
     
  7. McGrain

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    Well let's look at the guys ranked by TBRB at 147lbs.

    1 - Spence. Fought twice since Manny last fought and nearly died in a car crash.
    2 - Crawford. Fought twice since Manny.
    3 - Porter. Fought twice since Manny.
    4 - Ugas. Fought twice since Manny.
    5 - Danny Garcia. Fought twice since Manny.
    6 - Vergil Ortiz. Fought four times since Manny.
    7 - Jaron Ennis. Fought six times since Manny
    8 - Mikey Garcia. Fought once since Manny
    9 - Abdukakhorov. Fought twice since Manny
    10 - Jamal James. Fought once since Manny.

    This idea you have that Manny could at no time in the last two years have had a fight is a fantasy that you have made up in your head.

    You've already been told. Champions are NOT stripped for inactivity. Why do you continue to ignore this explanation and compare champions to contenders? It's bizarre.

    Of course nobody "holds us" to it. The inactivity policy is public and popular, for the most part. Your beliefs about stripping contenders for inactivity are still conveniently unknown despite pages and pages and pages of posts by you. Mine is that if you aren't fighting, you aren't among one of the main contenders to the world title.

    Ring is owned by a promoter, and one who has been involved in promoting Manny Pacquiao fights in the past. Please.

    What is it about corruption you find so appealing?

    You haven't really been arguing. You've been repeating yourself for pages and pages while becoming more shrill and being repeatedly exposed.
     
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  8. Dubblechin

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    Here's hoping the Covid variant doesn't get too bad, or in 16 months, you will have to remove everyone above them from your ratings and you'll have Vergil Ortiz and Jaron Ennis as your top two welterweights ...

    And you'll have to spend days explaining why they are the TWO BEST at the weight and why their matchup is to crown the WORLD's best welter. (LOL)

    Good luck with your policies.

    What will you be doing when Spence and Pac fight for the World Welterweight title next month?

    Will you guys be sitting around trying to find a way to rank Bud Crawford's next unrated opponent?

    Or will you hurriedly try to put out new ratings the next day ranking Manny as the #1 or #2 behind Spence, and hoping they sign for a return so you can save face and name the winner of the rematch the World Champ ... well after everyone else has already done so?
     
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  9. McGrain

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    More fantasy.

    The board can react in any way they chose. What the did this time was react in a way that meant almost every fighter in the rankings had a fight in the time they allowed. It worked well. Manny was one of the casualties. 25 months between fights is too long to remain inactive and ranked as proven by the list I provided. Everyone managed a fight in this division. Except him.

    Only if I run across another hysterical internet lunatic who wants to engage in fantasy for pages an pages about a rankings organisation clearly better than the ones he so loves, for unknown reasons.

    As I've expressed before, luck isn't really a requirement, it's going very well.

    Watching it of course. It's a good fight.

    But it's not being contested between the two best welterweights on the planet. Almost everyone agrees that I am right and you are wrong.

    TBR's championship policy is that an unfilled throne can only be filled by the number one and number two contenders in the world meeting in the Ring. You feel otherwise about that. I wish you luck.



    No. We don't "find a way" to rank anyone, including Crawford's last opponent, so this is especially bizarre as a remark. It's a pathetic, scrambling accusation for someone who has been kicked around his own argument "for two days" as you put it. The TBRB doesn't "try" to rank anyone, if we did, we would try to rank Manny maybe.

    Nice to sign off with a baseless and unpleasent accusation though, fantasy has been your favoured method from post 1.
     
  10. Dubblechin

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    So probably #2 then?

    You will hurriedly try to put out new ratings the next day ranking Manny as the #1 or #2 behind Spence, and hope they sign for a return so you can save face and name the winner of the rematch the World Champ ... well after everyone else has already done so.

    Got it.

    And one last word of advice, it's a dumb policy. It doesn't take a lunatic to understand that. Don't box yourself into making stupid choices and blame it on POLICY. Especially when you guys wrote the policy.

    Good luck fielding questions next month when everyone realizes you guys dropped the ball.
     
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  11. McGrain

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    :lol: tried to sneak one past me by not quoting me! Naughty!

    What is this in reference to?

    There are new rankings every week. If we "hurry" we might beat ourselves by hours.

    More fantasy from the fantasist.

    :lol: there is no "Try" we provide popular rankings for telveision, newspapers and the internet weekly every week and have done for more than a decade.

    Fantasy.

    There is no "hope". We don't "hope" to be able to crown champions, or rank fighters, or do anything. We have a prolonged discussion once a week about the fights that have taken place and rank them according to conclusions.

    Not surprising for such a huge fan of the WBC and IBF to go straight there with his/her thinking though.

    Anyone who names the winner of Pacquiao-Spence the lineal champion on the bases of their fight is doing a dishonour to that title and is flat out wrong. It will be excellent to be "behind" them and i'm satisfied of that.

    This, for the fiftieth time, is because a new lineal champ should only be named when the number one faces the number two, something nobody believes Manny is.

    I rather doubt that.

    It's not a dumb policy. You are FACTUALLY and flat out wrong about that. Irrefutably. Stripping contenders for inactivity is absolutely correct and beyond all hope of contradiction as policy.

    Only the length of inactivity is in dispute. Because from the very beginning, you have refused to name how long is long enough, it has not been possible to have an adult conversation with you. Also, because you are in the grip of great emotional turmoil (LOL).
     
  12. delboy82

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    Boxing is a sport first and a job second. If fighters get into boxing to make mo ey my advice is dont, the percentage of fighters that make a living from it is miniscule. If they wanna do the t for the glory, the sport the competition then go for it.

    I for one dont give one iota how much a fighter earns.

    Too many belts rends to lead to easy money for meaningless fights which is the complete opposite of what fans want
     
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  13. delboy82

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    Champion : a person who has surpassed all rivals in a sporting contest or other competition.

    This pretty much ends all debate on the thread. Have as many belts as u want but dont try and tell me having a belt makes you a champion
     
  14. Dubblechin

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    You don't have to strip anyone of anything. (That's what I have been trying to get through your thick head.)

    Your job is just to RATE fighters. That's it.

    NOT to punish them for NOT FOLLOWING YOUR POLICY. (Don't you get that Jose Sulaiman?)

    You guys made up a policy and chose to follow it. (NOBODY is holding you to it. NOBODY.)

    Others didn't institute the same DUMB policy. Now they look smart and you look dumb, because you followed a dumb policy you guys made up on your own.

    In fact, you guys are beginning to look like the last people to cross the finish line.

    This fight is going down in history as the World Welterweight title fight.

    You guys blew it.

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  15. McGrain

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    Every rankings body in the world strips fighters for inactivity, you stupid, stupid man.
     
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