Does any former Light Heavy Champion weight beat a Prime Mike Tyson.

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  1. George Crowcroft

    George Crowcroft He Who Saw The Deep Full Member

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    I think Conn has next to no chance. He's almost perfect for Tyson, and even with a great chin, Tyson had a habit of breaking those.
     
  2. BitPlayerVesti

    BitPlayerVesti Boxing Drunkie Full Member

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    I don't think there's any Light Heavyweight champions I'd give a good chance.

    Even stretching it to include Greb, Tunney and Charles.
     
  3. janitor

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    Holyfield fought his pro debut at 177lbs, at the age of 23.

    While he didn't technically have a professional fight as a light heavyweight, I don't think that it would have been impossible.

    Curiously Wikipedia lists his first four professional fights as being at light heavy.

    Not sure where they got that from.
     
  4. Kamikaze

    Kamikaze Bye for now! banned Full Member

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    Jacked as F? Do they have weight rooms in the UK? Jake was sorta big compared to other midgets in a tiny weight class yes. Lol

    Size? Evander was a narrow quite small framed dude with a big head. What do you mean?
     
  5. White Bomber

    White Bomber Boxing Addict Full Member

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    I'd make Tyson favorite, but Holyfield will put up a good fight.
     
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  6. 2piece

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    I don't see any person ever walking in at the weight of 175 or less, having any chance against Tyson.
     
  7. robert ungurean

    robert ungurean Богдан Philadelphia Full Member

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    So was Tyson. Still is
     
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  8. White Bomber

    White Bomber Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Tyson never took steroids in his prime.
    He might have taken some after he got out of hail, but he was no longer as good by that point, so it's kinda irrelevant.
     
  9. robert ungurean

    robert ungurean Богдан Philadelphia Full Member

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    Not something I'd be willing to bet on
     
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  10. Entaowed

    Entaowed Boxing Addict banned Full Member

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    You may be correct anout Tyson, only if you move the goal posts to unlikely to beat him.
    In 10 contests at least a few would win occasionally-but this is true for almost any world-class competition.
    I assume you mean moved up as a pro-not from when an amateur like Ali.
    But Spinks is NOT a very good test.

    It is fairly trivial, but he was at best 6' 2". Heights are routinely exaggerated, as was Tyson's.
    More importantly, he did not have the HW track record of some who moved up, & even more importantly had been inactive for a while...AND had a bad leg.

    Also he was scared, so it effected his fight strategy & resiliency, he does not prove anything.
     
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  11. Entaowed

    Entaowed Boxing Addict banned Full Member

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    There us absolutely no evidence for this.
    Sure he might have been-anyone might have been, you & I could secretly be serial killers or wife-beaters...

    He was bulky at 13 even before lifting weights, let alone being poor with no access to nor incentive to use steroids.
    Someone said he might have used by the time he came back from prison, but not before. Sure he may have, but his actual weight & body fat when he returned was like Ali only marginally more than before. Muscle memory could hasve gotten him back there when he started pumping iron or doing all the body work exercises again.

    Tyson did a lot of bad things, but it is irrational & unfair to assume a guy was cheating & lying absent any sensible evidence.
    As someone who has lifted for decades-or ask others-some peope are genetic outliars for natural muscle potential.
    If there is no specific evidence, if there was no very quick unlikely weight gain to get larger than ever before, & if the total sized reached is clearly possible with a certain bone structure...

    It is not reasonable to say someone used.
    Now if he got to be say the size of say Ronnie Coleman, who at around the same height was ~ 300 lbs. with lower body fat than Tyson, sure say he used!
    If he was even around 250 at a very low body fat, sure say he used.
    But even that is a different universe from Tyson.

    But 214-221 at 5' 10" or so, at low but not pro body building competition BF level is naturally (even without Creatine) achievable for some.
     
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  12. mr. magoo

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    yeah it’s pretty difficult to imagine any true career light heavys beating Tyson. I can’t think of any
     
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  13. MarkusFlorez99

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    LOL he would get wiped out
     
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  14. djanders

    djanders Boxing Addict Full Member

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    I believe Holyfield is actually about 4 years older than Tyson.
    You don't think Tyson used PEDS?

    Actually, Holyfield was a Light Heavyweight in his first 4 professional fights. 178. 179. 177. and 176. If he had signed to fight at Light Heavy, he could have easily weighed in at 175 in each of those 4, and still entered the ring at the listed weights, and probably in the next 2 after those. He was also an Olympic Bronze Medalist at Light Heavyweight.
     
  15. BitPlayerVesti

    BitPlayerVesti Boxing Drunkie Full Member

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    It's not uncommon for a fight to be listed as a weight its a few pounds over the weight limit for in nontitle fights. Regardless he wasn't a Light Heavyweight champion, or even a Light Heavyweight at a world class level, so he really doesn't count.