Who is a better H2H fighter. Vitali Klitschko or Tyson Fury ?

Discussion in 'World Boxing Forum' started by MarkusFlorez99, Jul 10, 2021.


Who is higher

Poll closed Apr 5, 2024.

  1. Vitali Klitschko

    50 vote(s)
    72.5%

  2. Tyson Fury

    19 vote(s)
    27.5%
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  1. McGrain

    McGrain Diamond Dog Staff Member

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    I'm not going to play ping pong with you all night. Valuev stated, specifically that he was expected to fight Vitali in an immediate rematch and if he defeated Vitali again, that he was expected to fight Wladimir at that point. This is what he explicitly stated. It has never to my knowledge been contradicted by anyone in the Klitschko camp.

    Either way, Vitali didn't do very well when he took on top 5 fighters. His record in the top half of the division is not great. Shame.
     
    McGrain, Jul 11, 2021
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  2. Liquorice

    Liquorice Boxing Addict banned Full Member

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    Love Vitali but he came up short against 2 of the 3 best fighters he faced IMO.. Fury has more facets to his game & isn't injured as much
     
    Liquorice, Jul 11, 2021
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  3. MarkusFlorez99

    MarkusFlorez99 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Larry Holmes. Past it Larry Donald who was a bootelg version of Larry Holmes did pretty decent against Klitschko boxing wise until he got stopped. But the stopoage wasn't 100% called for. He wasn't KO'D nor was he getting completely battered on the ropes. Donald fell down multiple times and was hurt but half of those falls were because Klitschko pushed him, similar to how 37 year old sanders rocked Vitali and pushed him to the ground. Larry Holmes has better punch resistance and was FAR quicker, better head movement, could dictate range better, and had a better jab. Larry Holmes in his 40s post retirement did better in the 90s than prime Larry Donald. Imagine him in his prime.

    Vitali Klitschko is elite but he didn't fight high calibre fighters in his prime. His claim to fame is outboxing a 37 year old overweight Lennox Lewis that had 2 weeks to prepare wheras Vitali himself had been preparing to fight Lewis for several months to a few years. but based on that logic Hasim Rahman must be a monster because he KO'd a younger, slightly less overweight Lewis in 5 rounds. Lewis looked sluggish and absolutely terrible against Vitali that night and fighters like prime Holyfield or prime Mercer would have destroyed that version of Lewis. He was always aggressive against taller fighters like Grant, Biggs and Akinwande. But he tried to box Vitali in rounds 1 and 2 which was odd. he clearly was not himself. He was there for the taking but Vitali couldn't pull it off and got half his face punched off im the process.

    I am no Vitali hater but people really only think Lewis or Fury could beat him. I don't believe that. Ali could beat him, Fury could potentially beat him, prime Mercer could potentially beat him, id give peak Tim Witherspoon a decent chance, i really think Mike Tyson could outwork him as he actually had a good gas tank in his prime. Vitali gets more credit than he deserves. He's not unbeatable

    Sidenote i think Vitali beats Fury
     
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  4. Surrix

    Surrix Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Did they had attempted to contract Valuev from period shortly before his fight vs Holy or even vs Haye?
    Damn.

    Nothing wrong, Mike fought easy fights until get reanimated from retirement Holmes in the ring.
    I forget that he was from U.S.
     
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  5. Surrix

    Surrix Boxing Addict Full Member

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    If about Valuev, I don't think that Vitali or Wlad had stopped Valuev unless maybe via cuts. They ofc had legit chance to win on cards vs giant, I think.
     
    Surrix, Jul 11, 2021
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  6. The Real Lance

    The Real Lance Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    He says while cheering for the biggest HW Champ we've had :lol:
     
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  7. miniq

    miniq AJ IS A BODYBUILDING BUM Full Member

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    Fury can adapt Klits can't.
     
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  8. The Real Lance

    The Real Lance Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    And yet he still fights smaller guys....just like what you say about the K bros. Can't have it both ways dude.
     
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  9. BubblesUK

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    Arguably only one, even, given Wilders grossly overinflated reputation.

    As you say, it'd be an intriguing matchup... I have a feeling Fury would be motivated enough to be on top form, which makes him a very slippery customer, but somehow I still think Vitali beats him.
     
    BubblesUK, Jul 12, 2021
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  10. BubblesUK

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    It would've been a **** fight to watch if they had stepped in together, I think... They were too close to really go all-out against each other regardless of professional pride.
     
    BubblesUK, Jul 12, 2021
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  11. ShovelHook

    ShovelHook Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Easily Vitali. What possible physical or mental gift did he lack as a fighter? Maybe not a durability against unfortunate injuries but otherwise he's the perfect heavyweight boxer.
     
    ShovelHook, Jul 12, 2021
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  12. ShovelHook

    ShovelHook Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Wlad didn't almost beat Fury cmon, he barely touched the man.
     
    ShovelHook, Jul 12, 2021
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  13. African Cobra

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    There mother won’t stand for it.
     
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  14. Tankatron

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    All I will say is, can you imagine what a prime Vitali would have done to the Alabama Windmill? It would have been a destruction and demolition of gargantuan proportions similar to Drago V Creed!
     
    Tankatron, Jul 12, 2021
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  15. Perkin Warbeck

    Perkin Warbeck Boxing aficionado Full Member

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    Larry Donald was very durable, he had never been stopped or even knocked down before he fought Vitali.

    He went the distance with Riddick Bowe, and had a close fight with Valuev (a MD loss) three years after he fought Vitali.
     
    Perkin Warbeck, Jul 12, 2021
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