Floyd Mayweather Vs Sugar Ray Leonard who wins prime for prime

And he has seen their & their opponents careers.

 

Plus, I saw Mayweather lose, no matter what the hometown judges say, to Castillo & Maidana clearly.
@robert ungurean

 

Mayweather is the only bigtime fighter in history who had the advantage of fighting every major and 87% of all his fights in his home residence town. What if all Durán fighters had to fight in Panama City and Roberto never had to sleep anywhere but his own bed and had his people judging and reffing.? C'MON CORNPOP! YOU MAY BE A BAD DUDE & RUN WITH A BAD CROWD, but even you isn't dat stupid. Stupid

 

Because Mayweather didn't box anyone as good at SRL?

Besides Maidana and Mosley both stunned Mayweather. If they can, SRL can as well and more.

 

But was he really that good at welterweight? Since 2011 The best welters in the world has been K.Thurman , T.Bradley
T.Crawford, K,Brooks, D.Alexander,L.Peterson,S,Porter and E,Spence. Each one of those fighters would've been a serious
stylistic challenge for May Jr. Not one fight against any of them. Not even a rumored one.
Each one of his opponents at the weight he choose to fight had a serious "Yea but" by
their names. "Yea but" Pac was damaged good by the time May choose to fight him, and the fight was 5yrs past
when it should've been held.
"Yea but' Berto had clearly slipped by the time he faced May.
"Yea but" Cotto had clearly slipped by the time he faced May,
"Yea but" Maidana was the perfect style opponent for him to shine against,
one of those tailor made opponents a fighter of his caliber should shine against.
"Yea but" Alvarez was relatively green when he choose to fight him , he had
to meet May at a "catchweight". And really, just how good is Alvarez anyway?
He's taking a page from May jr's book of carefully choosing his opponents for
the best chance of victory.
And Conor Mcgregor , Really?
I won't even mention Guerrero or Ortiz
And when one looks at his welterweight run in it's entirety from 2006,
it's the same pattern. Very careful match making.
I'm not a May hater, but these are facts .
I'm the 1st to acknowledge May Jr. is a gifted fighter. At Jr.light and Light
one of the best I've seen. But Jr. welter and above? Smoke and mirrors.
And no he wouldn't have done well against Leonard and many other ATG,
welters from years past. In fact , I can think of quite a few very goods from the past
he wouldn't have done well against if he fought them in their primes

 

I don't particularly like Sugar Ray Leonard as a person.

Guess what? I consider him to be superior to scumbags like Mayweather and boxers I support like Hearns.

 

I don't.
Btw, Hearns was dominating the first fight with SRL until he gassed out. Had it been just 12 rounds, he'd have won.
And Hearns was robbed in their second fight, he deserved the win.

 

Floyd Sr. Could possibly beat Jr. Leonard toyed with Pop. Yes Son is better, stronger but he isn't any quicker.

It could go 12 but I don't think 15. Ray would use his advantages. His handspeed, power, his combinations. He had a more complete offense and when he had to he could dig inside, his footwork as well.

 

It wasn't a 12 round fight and SRL won fair and square.

He did something that night that Mayweather could have never done.

Mayweather never had a win half as impressive.

 

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K. Thurman is way younger than Mayweather. By the time he became champ, Mayweather was almost 40 and had his fight with Pac.
It's only normal that a 37 year old Mayweather would opt to fight the bigger name in Pac for more cash, than Thurman.
Plus if Pac can beat Thurman when Pac is 40 years old, I'm sure a 38 year old Mayweather could also do it. That's assuming they would have fought in 2015. Anytime before that and Mayweather wins with relative ease

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T.Bradley won the WBO welterweight belt in a SD against Pac in 2012. After that he only has 1 notable win, against Juan Manuel Marquez. He lost the rematch to Pac in 2014. He also lost their rubber match in 2016. Just like in Thurman's case, if an old Pac can beat him, Mayweather can too.

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Now T. Crawford is clearly a great boxer, but the man fought at light welterweight up until 2017. He became welterweight champ one year later. Mayweather was already 40 years old and retired by the time Crawford became a welterweight. So it's not fair at all to hold it against him for not fighting Crawford at that age. And before that, it was very hard for Floyd to weigh in at light welterweight.

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K. Brook only became relevant around 2012 and became IBF champ in 2014. He challenged for the MW titles 2 years later.
So there was only a short window for Mayweather to fight him, around the time he fought Pac. Again, it's not hard to understand why Mayweather would choose Pac.

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D. Alexander became relevant at welterweight around 2011/2012 with his two wins over Maydana. He became champ in 2012, but then lost his title one year later to Porter. He also lost to Amir Khan in 2014. If those two can beat him, it's safe to say Mayweather would have also beaten him.

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L. Peterson only became a welterweight around 2015. He won the WBA title in 2017 and had 2 losses after that.
So the window for Mayweather to fight him was very small, just in 2015, when:
- Mayweather fought Pac and Berto
and
- Peterson wasn't that relevant yet.
You could argue that he could have fought him instead of Berto, but you can't really hold it against an old Floyd.

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Porter has always intrigued me in the sense that he's a boxing anomaly, starting up at a higher weight class and then moving down.
Anyway, Porter became a welterweight around 2010. Won the IBF title in 2013. Lost it to Brook the next year. Challenged Thurman and lost in 2016.
Given that Mayeather retired in 2015, the window for them to fight was 2013-2015. Now, we'll rule out 2015, when Mayweather chose Pac, so that leaves us 2013-2014. You could argue that Mayweather could have fought him in 2014 for the IBF title, but that's about it.
And you could also defend Floyd by saying Maidana was a bigger name in 2014.

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E. Spence is 13 years younger than Mayweather. He became champ in 2017, two years after Floyd had already retired. So it's hardly fair to hold it against Floyd for not fighting him.

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His win over Canelo was pretty impressive for me, I was expecting him to loose

 

Canelo was nowhere near his prime.

 

Perhaps not, but he was still an undefeated boxer, with around 40 fights and the fight was expected to be a passing of the torch.

 

Sure and that LEFT HOOK Leonard landed on Hearns had NOTHING to do with Leonard winning right?
You know the hook that turned Hearns legs into jelly?
And I'm A big Hearns fan but that first fight Leonard dug down and he won- funny how you leave out the stoppage-you know Hearne on the ropes getting BLASTED by Leonard.

 

Hearns was "blasted" cause he got exhausted, not cause Leonard was more skilled. Before the 14th round, SRL was trailing on all three judges' scorecards. This shows Hearns as the better boxer.
15 rounds fights are garbage. In many instances, like in our case, they allow the guy who simply has more stamina to win.
Fights should be 8 to 10 rounds max, so that they reward skill more so than stamina.