Explain the negotiations between Joshua and Wilder

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  1. 941Jeremy

    941Jeremy Active Member Full Member

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    I disagree with that, but I suppose it's subjective
     
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    You Can look it up anywhere my friend
     
  3. Venkman

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    Espn, ring magazine it's out there
     
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  6. Wizbit1013

    Wizbit1013 Drama go, and don't come back Full Member

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    Its not subjective

    He is more known but nowhere near a household name
     
  7. Brighton bomber

    Brighton bomber Loyal Member Full Member

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    Yeah that's what I remember happening the sanctioning body was getting sick and tired or how drawn out negotiations were and had basically pushed back the date more than once for Joshua to make the Wilder fight and then in late June demanded they face Povetkin or be stripped. So Joshua was forced to end the negotiations with Wilder and fight Povetkin.
     
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  9. Wizbit1013

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    And they knew it and only then with no time left said yes to the fight, knowing full well it would not be accepted
     
  10. Geo1122

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    I try to be objective by looking at the timelines of both fighters, what they say, and what they do.

    As a result it usually ends in the favour of Joshua. His team have consistently, over the past several years, sent offers to Wilders team, always offering more than his market value. When Wilder was earning around 1 million dollars a fight, team Joshua offered (I believe) 10, 12.5, and 15. As Wilder’s profile grew, those offers increased, eventually landing on a 60/40 split, before finally finishes on the 120 DAZN offer.

    Joshua has pretty much always maintained that his goal is undisputed. His actions seem to show this, meeting all his mandatories, and fighting legitimate top 10 opponents, as well as unifying.

    He most recently agreed to fight Fury. A guy that battered Wilder all over the ring. A guy that many believe Joshua cannot beat.

    Wilder on the other hand has consistently flip flopped, claiming it’s about the belts. It’s about one face, before turning around and staying it’s not about the belts. Wilder’s resume, until very recent times, does raise eyebrows. His manager’s comments surrounding Wlad also raise eyebrows with regard to Wilder’s intentions.

    His saving grace was the offer that he made to Joshua for 50 million. However, what some fail to mention is the finer details of the offer. Firstly, it came directly from the fighter, and came with a 24 hour deadline I do believe. On top of that it was also leaked to the media. Hearn responded for a meeting, to which he did not get. But the media storm was in full swing now, and Wilder’s profile was growing, despite the general consensus that he was yet to have a legitimate opponent on his resume.

    Wilder has since acknowledged that turned down a more lucrative offer to fight Joshua.

    I don’t particularly care if you call it a duck, poor advise, or simply cutting off his nose to spite his face. Team Wilder have had legitimate offers that have been way above his market value, and he and his team have turned them down.
     
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  11. 941Jeremy

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    How is he not near? Should he win his next fight then he would be in the mix for one of the biggest Heavyweight fights in decades. Being one win away from that is the very definition of borderline.
     
  12. Wizbit1013

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    Boxing is nowhere near as popular as it once was

    Hardly any fighters are house hold names

    Wilder nowhere near
     
  13. Puroresu_Fan

    Puroresu_Fan Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Not exclusive but first refusal and then the right to match any offer which is meant DAZN could only not have the rights to an AJ v Wilder because they decided not too pay for it.
     
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