The Perfect Uppercut

Is it an odd notion though, Sal? A jab can only be thrown by the lead hand as can a hook; a cross can only be thrown by the rear hand. Most punches, in their truest definition, are unique to one hand.

Thanks for the respectful response, by the way. I was expecting contrary opinions. That you gave yours in such a pleasant manner is appreciated. It all helps for a debate rather than the usual descent into vitriol and mud-slinging - which should only ever be done by the rear hand with the lead foot in advance.

 

Well I'm nothing if not pleasant.




Nope, couldn't type that with a straight face.

 

As to the question, I just believe that based on the fact an uppercut from either hand is delivered from essentially the same arc, and is thrown by first shifting weight to that side of the body, I do still believe in the idea it can be thrown with either. In other words, the delivery and functionality are essentially the same.

 

Very fair comment. Here's a point to ponder, then. At what point does a lead hand uppercut become a hook?

I don't think that the arc is the same either. A rear uppercut is thrown from a straight on stance and whips across the body. A lead uppercut, if I concede that there is such a punch, would surely be delivered with a side on stance and wouldn't travel across the body of the thrower.

In terms of shifting the energy, though, you are absolutely right. A lead left uppercut would, if I concede there can be such a punch , start with planting the left foot, toes pointing in. The body would move back as the punch is thrown to get the whip effect as the energy goes from leg to waist to shoulder to elbow. Ditto all that for rear uppercut. It's just when it's the lead hand, I think of it as a hybrid, upward moving hook.

I think I'll call that a 'smash'. What do you think?

 

Watson had looked close to superhuman that whole fight, fighting far beyond himself; everything incredibly crisp and a pace you’d expect a 135-140 guy to be fighting at. Eubank was plain scary after he finally fell to one knee, like not actually human. (The timing was down to the nanosecond, accuracy down to the micrometre; with zero doubt!)

I’ve never seen anything like it. The guy had been battered.

 

"Smash" is good, that works.

For me at least a hook becomes a hook when the arc changes and It comes from the side, at a parallel angle to the ground (or thereabouts).

 

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So was the punch that Frazier decked Ali with not a hook then, as the trajectory of that was far from parallel to the ground?

 

Well it was more hook than uppercut, for sure. That's why I said "or thereabouts " when describing the arc of the punch. Few hooks are thrown perfectly parallel to the ground.

 

Douglas against Tyson was a good one.

 

Very few indeed, Sal. The best I can think of are the ones Foster poleaxed both Quarry and Tiger with, if memory of each punch serves me right.

Anyway, I don't think we're a million miles apart in our thinking. Maybe some of the others can add their tupenn'orth and hopefully agree with me. All the best to you.

 

You too.....

 

It's a ****ing hook all day long

 

You've really captured the spirit of that debate that I had with @salsanchezfan there, haven't you?

 

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