The myth of Canelo being "weighed drained" against Mayweather and other excuses debunked

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  1. MarkusFlorez99

    MarkusFlorez99 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Im destroying these sad excuses once and for all. The Canelo fanboys simply fear the reality of things. Mayweather was 2 levels above Canelo on the night yet we still have deniers among us

    Here's my 2 cents

    • Canelo had around 35 or more fights from welterweight to light middleweight which is 147 pounds-154 pounds before he got his head boxed off by Mayweather. Although he likely rehydrated gargantuan amounts of weight on fight night. Before he fought Mayweather he had never once fought at 160 and even less than 3 years prior to the Mayweather fight he weighed at a little over 151lb against Mathew Hatton.
    • Canelo fought perfectly fine when he weighed in at these low weights before he fought Mayweather.
    • As a matter of fact Canelo never even stepped on the scales at over 154lb before the Mayweather fight which means the difference between his light middleweight fight weigh ins compared to the catch weight of 152lb against Mayweather is about 2 pounds at the absolute most. Although he still had a significant size advantage against Mayweather and still rehydrated to 165 pounds on the night.
    • Canelo at this point had the WBC and the WBA titles.
    • Canelo was undefeated.
    • Canelo had 42 fights total before facing Mayweather
    • Canelo was young but this is very ironic considering the fact that Mayweather detractors criticize Mayweather for fighting opponents past their prime.
    • Canelo wasn't in his prime when he fought Mayweather and has improved significantly since then, that is objective reality. He's gotten much better. But even now it's clear Canelo still struggles with slippery fighters just like he did against Erislandy Lara and Mayweather as shown against Billy Joe Saunders where Saunders slickness and his mobility gave Canelo issues in the middle rounds and made Canelo look incredibly flat footed. Although Canelo did end up finding Saunders by slowing him down with body shots and timing his head movement. However it's clear Saunders pfp is nowhere near as good as Mayweather.
    Conclusion: Claims that Canelo was weight drained, claims that Canelo was inexperienced or green, and claims that Canelo was way too young against Mayweather are ludicrous
     
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  2. BCS8

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    And yet it was in the contract that he had to make 152.

    Floyd weight drained him, it is an unequivocal fact.
     
  3. MarkusFlorez99

    MarkusFlorez99 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Did you even read my post ? Canelo made 151lb less than 3 years prior and Canelo had months to weigh 2 pounds less than he normally did (LOL) because Canelo at this point had already fought at 147 and 154 and weighed in no higher than that until after he lost to Mayweather. He was not "weighed drained" that is an excuse. A lot of people have been making excuses lately.
     
  4. Tyson Fury Goat

    Tyson Fury Goat Boxing Addict banned Full Member

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    Floyed wanted to even drain him for to 147 but settled for a drianing of 152

    FACt Canelo was drained he was fighting at 154 before that

    anther FACT canelo was green no experience at all to fight a mega fight like that was 21 fought 95 percent bums in mexico that canelo was million times worse then the canelo today FACT!
     
  5. BoxingDialogue

    BoxingDialogue Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Even if he was that’s on him. He knew what he signed up for.
     
  6. oldcanvasback

    oldcanvasback Active Member Full Member

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    The Canelo that fought Hatton was 3 years younger than the vs Mayweather. 3 Years of naturally getting bigger.

    Either way, Mayweather was excellent that night.
     
  7. xnico

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    "I did not know how to get him. Simple as that. He's very intelligent, very elusive, simple as that"
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    - Alvarez

    When asked about the weight:

    "Were you surprised that you weren't able to at any time to use your weight advantage of 15lbs?"
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    , Mayweather vs Alvarez post fight interview
     
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  8. Aussie Invader

    Aussie Invader Boxing Addict banned Full Member

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    canelo fought hatton?
    when did this happen :eyepop:
     
  9. oldcanvasback

    oldcanvasback Active Member Full Member

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    Matthew Hatton, Ricky's bro.
     
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  10. Aussie Invader

    Aussie Invader Boxing Addict banned Full Member

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    i stand corrected.
     
  11. BCS8

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    152lb for a 154lb title is weight drained.

    If it made no difference then Floyd would not have insisted on it.

    You don't get to weight drain a fighter and then pretend you beat a full version of that fighter.
     
  12. Quina74

    Quina74 Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Canelo's "improvement" (aka drug stack abuse) is far from exaggerated. Honestly. Canelo has showed different elements of his game since Floyd only really in the two GGG fights but you've got to remember Canelo was fighting an old slower 35/36 yo man...the rest of Canelo's "improvement" has just been observed as him plodding his opponents (who in the majority do not come to win) down and throwing punches without worry of heavy returned fire. Don't get me wrong Canelo is a good counterpuncher but he's not that great at counterpunching on the front foot so that opponents throw pitty patty jabs and don't try and take the fight to him.

    When you're fighting someone old like 35/36 yo GGG condition of course you're gonna look better than when fighting younger smaller faster guys.
     
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  13. Quina74

    Quina74 Boxing Addict Full Member

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    To be honest **** Floyd and Canelo worst ambassadors of this circus show of a sport...

    Cherrypicking, card stacking, drug tacking pussies

    World champions? Get the fak atta here... Qhorrible fighters.. Qhorrible fighters
     
  14. jaytxxl

    jaytxxl Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Honestly I vividly remember team Canelo saying Floyd won’t fight them and even said they’ll come down to 150 to get the fight. They put themselves in that predicament. It was the best loss of any fighters career and if you ask me he learned very lucrative and business lessons that night. B-Sides fighters didn’t have a clue how bad they had it coming for them in future negotiations..
     
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  15. dangerousity

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    1. I don't think Canelo was weight drained, but just like the Pac detractors say, you don't create a weight limit stipulation unless it benefits you somehow.

    2. Although Canelo had 42 pro fights, I think he had a limited amateur career with only 44 fights, his pro career was much of his amateur career. It's clear as day he's improved a lot. Everyone who picked Lara and Jacobs over him, did so due to his performance over a similar style in Trout, a boxer/mover Cotto (who moved a lot after partnering with Rigo's coach) and obviously Mayweather. However, he clearly beat Jacobs and Lara IMO. The same Canelo that fought Mayweather would have probably been outboxed by Jacobs, Lara and Saunders.

    So the claims which you say are ludicrous:
    - Weight drained - well, no but yes. Basically, the Canelo of MW is far bigger and healthier than the Canelo of the 152 fight.
    - Green - yes and no. It's clear he was still coming up and green means not reached prime yet, it's obvious Canelo is now in his prime and much better than before, so he was green. Don't forget, he also nearly lost to Cotto, I had it close to a draw. Though not as green as many make him out to be, he was obviously experienced enough to be world champ.
    - Too young - I mean...he was 23? Tank is still a prospect at 26. Crawford is a prospect at 34 lol. He was pretty young.
     
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