The myth of Canelo being "weighed drained" against Mayweather and other excuses debunked

Discussion in 'World Boxing Forum' started by MarkusFlorez99, Jul 18, 2021.


  1. Braindamage

    Braindamage Baby Face Beast Full Member

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    So, Pac doesn't get credit for beating Cotto or Oscar? I mean come on, those were some impressive performances.
     
  2. BCS8

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    Credit sure but not as if the undrained version had been there.
     
  3. Braindamage

    Braindamage Baby Face Beast Full Member

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    Agreed. No telling if the lighter weight caused significant issues, but there would be no doubt if fighters came in at division weight.
     
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  4. miniq

    miniq AJ IS A BODYBUILDING BUM Full Member

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    He was drained whilst Floyd was having IV bag parties.

    Atleast Floyd let Canelo wear his own gloves unlike Maidana....lol just kidding both mandated in contracts to wear Grants

    Floyd is an A-side coward, every advantage he could get.
     
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  5. MarkusFlorez99

    MarkusFlorez99 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Green in comparison ? Yes but green ? No. Anyone with 1 braincell can see that. He is only geen in comparison because instead of 40 fights, now he has 56 fights and more title fights under his belts. The fact that this has to be argued means you you didn't even read my post. Canelo was not green and i even stated Canelo had improved significantly but bringing that up to take away Mayweathers credit is just a bonehead excuse because Canelo had over 40 professional fights and had won 2 titles. It's like saying Mayweather was green "in comparison" when he almost last to Castillo. Did he improve after he fought Castillo the first time ? Yes. Was he green ? No. Saying he was "green in comparison" Is just a dumb narrative.
     
  6. JOKER

    JOKER Froat rike butterfry, sting rike MFER! banned Full Member

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    Pac went up 2 weight classes for Oscar. Was he supposed to go up 3? Huge win for his career, but actual value, I don't rate it much.

    And Cotto weighed in at 146 his previous fight. They fought at 145. Cotto moved to 154 and 160, both divisions where he looked small. That's the difference with the Clenelo and Cotto catchweights. Also, Pac is basically a lightweight.
     
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  7. MarkusFlorez99

    MarkusFlorez99 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    I already said he improved in my write up a lot and weight drained ? LOL Canelo making 152 was not physically taxing at all because he had no trouble weighing less than that 3 years prior and even made 153lb 5 months before the Mayweather fight no problem so he was not "drained" It is merely a 2 pound difference compared to when he usually cuts weight to make weight and he had multiple months to get it done. And he rehydrated to a gargantuan 165lb on fight night anyway or are we just going to throw that under the rug ?

    Canelo had over a 15 pound advantage on the night and still lost. Claiming that Canelo was weight drained is a ridiculous narrative and claiming that he was green is also very questionable as he had 42 professional fights and had already won multiple world titles. Whats the point in bringing up his ameture record ? He was relatively successful in the pros before he fought Mayweather. He has improved yes but if you're trying to use that as a means to claim Canelo now would beat that version of Mayweather then it makes no sense because Canelo now wouldn't even be able to make 152lb, probably due to the ungodly amount of military grade steroids he's been taking. And as shown recently he still has issues with slick fighters.

    Give Mayweather his credit. He fought a world class middleweight on the night
     
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  8. MarkusFlorez99

    MarkusFlorez99 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Thank you :risas3: he was not "drained" as he had continuously made less than 152lb in the last 10 fights before he fought Mayweather. In addition to that he practically came in at Super Middleweight against Mayweather LOL
     
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  9. northpaw

    northpaw Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Canelo's only real disadvantage was a skill set disadvantage.............
     
  10. JOKER

    JOKER Froat rike butterfry, sting rike MFER! banned Full Member

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    Floyd gets a little credit, but not full credit. The best version of Clenelo is now at 168-175. Very, very, very far removed from 152. This version would destroy any version of Floyd.
     
  11. MarkusFlorez99

    MarkusFlorez99 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Canelo at this point wouldn't be able to make 152 so i dont see your point. But Canelo still struggles with slick fighters so im going to give Mayweather the full credit. If both were prime in the same weight class Floyd would still outclass him
     
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  12. JOKER

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    Right. It's impossible for their best versions to meet. 152 Clenelo was inferior to 168-175 Clenelo. So Floyd fought a drained and inferior version. And Floyd was also juiced as he had private drug testing contracts for his Showtime contract.
     
  13. MarkusFlorez99

    MarkusFlorez99 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    He wasn't drained and had no trouble making 153 right before the Mayweather fight. He even rehydrated to 165 so it doesn't matter. But yes Canelo has improved
     
  14. JOKER

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    It's pretty simple. Clenelo today is 168, can compete at 175, and probably comes into the ring around 180-190. He's now breaking biceps and faces.

    That's very far from 152. He was drained. That's why his face was the most marked up in a fight it's ever been. When you're drawn and drained, you bruise much more easily. Unless you're arguing that Floyd hits harder than Golovkin/Jacobs/Kovalev/Cotto and the guys Clenelo has faced at 160+.
     
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  15. BCS8

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    Because if that was the case then Mayweather could have gotten full credit for beating Canelo at the full weight ... and instead he drained him enough to make him ineffective. It's history.