FILMED examples of thumbing / eye gouging

Ali vs Ernie Terrell

 

One of Pedroza's fights he was accused of thumbing repeatedly. May have been Laporte, but I'm not sure.
Duran was accused of thumbing Moore intentionally if I remember right.
Holmes also had the reputation of thumbing.
Back in the day , it was expected, just like a cut eye, or lip, or a clash of heads. fighters were expected to fight through it. Many did, went on and won with the injury. It was seen as part of the game.

 

I imagine Larry shamelessly nodding to himself in approval after every gouge.

 

Young Stribling was eye gauging/thumbing a lot against Max Schmeling.

 

I thought of Duran-Moore too but only because it was mentioned in the past but I don't know if there's any clear evidence on the film. Particularly as it's harder to thumb with those gloves than it would be with the ones the old-timers wore.

 

I recall Pedroza hitting low, rabbit punching, lacing, holding and hitting and butting but don't remember thumbs. Some things are easily enough lost in the shuffle of course.

 

It didn't help him much

 

That's true and he stopped after Schmeling used the trick himself.

 

I'm pretty sure Foreman was accused of this is somebody. I know he's definitely admitted to doing it.

 

Schmeling's leverages where simply too high.

 

Were any legal tactis lost when they stitched the thumb to the rest of the glove? I've heard boxers had more leeway with parrying and clinching movements before the gloves became essentially club ends.

1920s boxing gloves almost look similar to current MMA gloves.

 

Yes, some tactics were lost . It was far easier to control an arm with the old gloves, using it to get the opponent off balance and take advantage of an opening created by a subtle hold or pull/ push.
We've all heard the term " Sweet Science " .
But at one time their was a" Science to infighting ".
A part of the game that has been lost, even more than body punching and the slip and counter.

 

...very true , I've seen some of those gloves and you can grapple with them and actually grab an arm. I believe those type gloves really drove some of the tactics and styles you see on the old footage.

 

I thought Duran got accused of doing that vs Moore.