Prime George foreman KO's Prime Holyfield: I'm not Convinced

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  1. Stiches Yarn

    Stiches Yarn Active Member Full Member

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    Evander can box outside or rumble inside.

    Young Foreman is one of the two ultimate heavyweight sluggers, cut the ring off better than any heavyweight not named Joe Louis, and if Holyfield fought inside, would simply beat him up and out in the end, if Holyfield tried to go outside, well, if Ali couldn't stay away from George and avoid his cutting the ring lff, Holyfield certainly couldn’t either, and he would be forced back inside.
    George by late TKO. In any event, young george was more powerful, stronger, and his power was greater than holyfield's by "half of the earth", even if he was on PED’s.
     
  2. ETM

    ETM I thought I did enough to win. Full Member

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    George Foreman by a 1st round knockout.
     
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  3. swagdelfadeel

    swagdelfadeel Obsessed with Boxing

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    Surely you can’t be serious?
     
  4. ETM

    ETM I thought I did enough to win. Full Member

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    Why not?
    George Foreman fought like he was double parked. Holyfield 's chin is no better than Frazier's. Depends on the referee. It could get into round 2.
     
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  5. Showstopper97

    Showstopper97 The Icon Full Member

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    Holyfield would have a good chance of beating Foreman, but not the 91 version of Holyfield (who was too willing to trade & that'd spell disaster for him). The cagey, old-school veteran version of Holyfield from 93-97 could definitely pull it off though & even potentially stop Foreman. 50/50 fight.
     
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  6. robert ungurean

    robert ungurean Богдан Philadelphia Full Member

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    I definitely like Foreman here.
     
  7. Stiches Yarn

    Stiches Yarn Active Member Full Member

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    No way....how holyfield, who fared pretty well against Lewis twice, tyson twice, bowe 3 freakin times has a chin that is no better than frazier, who has been knocked down all over the ring by the first big puncher he fought, was nearly stopped by ali in the second freakin round, and went to the canvas like 2 times against Bonavena in the first round??? How???
     
  8. Stiches Yarn

    Stiches Yarn Active Member Full Member

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    Um sorry i meant in the second round frazier was decked twice by Bonavena in the first fight.
     
  9. sauhund II

    sauhund II Boxing Addict Full Member

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    The myth of Holyfield continues.....

    Reality: Holyfield is 1-2 against Bowe, one could argue he is 0-3..........basically 0-2 against Lewis .........1-1 with glass cannon Moorer.....1-1-1 with heavyweight disgrace Huggybear Ruiz..............Holyfiled ENTIRE rep comes from defusing a washed up post prison Tyson twice, thats it, full stop

    Holyfiled could never ever get a handle on Bowe and needed the fan man and Bowe's pregnant wife collapsing to pull off a razor thin BS decision................and got ko'ed face down flat by a fat Bowe in the rubber match.

    Got almost ko'ed by a late sub crack head, struggled with two 40 year plus fossils...........went life and death with cream puff Bean.....no reason to go in here.......but but but Ray Mercer, yeah, that slug lost every major fight he ever was in and according to the Classic folklore Morrison was a bum so that dont count.

    No matter what PED's he is on Foreman will out right stop him, especially the Bowe 1 version who almost got stopped and Bowe aint no Foreman in the Killer department..........he aint gonna get a fan man or preganat wife either.

    Stamina, lol, Holyfieled is no conditioning wonder, he always huffed and puffed in the later rounds with his silly tip toe dancing , a sure indicator that he was out of gas

    Holyfield has a hand speed advanatge but a huge power disadvantage.................he threw every shot in the book against a dead tired washed up tyson and got a TKO stoppage in the eleventh hour..........he could never budge Bowe except one time and was koed shortly after......he will never get Foreman respect, gets drawn into a slugfest and counted out.

    Foreman ko'es holyfiled 3 out of 3.
     
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  10. ETM

    ETM I thought I did enough to win. Full Member

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    Holyfield was decked by Bert Cooper, Riddick Bowe 3 times and stopped... and even stopped by James Toney.
    None of those guys hit like 1973 George Foreman.
     
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  11. JWSoats

    JWSoats Active Member Full Member

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    This is how I see it. First of all, Holyfield would have to survive the early rounds. He would have to survive and have enough in the tank to take George into deep water in the later rounds. The longer the fight went, the better his chances would be.
     
  12. slash

    slash Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Holyfield, every punch in the book, would stop that Foreman. Wide open, should have got got before. Right lead, Holyfield.
     
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  13. ETM

    ETM I thought I did enough to win. Full Member

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    Holyfield couldn't pull that off. Foreman's jab is gonna ring his bell before the lights go out.
     
  14. Stiches Yarn

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    Oliver McCall said nobody hit him harder than Cooper in his entire boxing career, not Lennox, not Frank Bruno, not even his former sparring partner Mike Tyson.
    "BoxingInsider: Who was the hardest puncher you faced?"

    Oliver McCall: “Bert Cooper. Left hook. That was the hardest punch that I ever felt and that I had to overcome. It felt like a truck had hit me. I never got hit by a truck but it felt like if a truck would have hit me.”
    https://www.boxinginsider.com/headlines/oliver-mccall-recalls-the-night-he-knocked-out-lennox/

    Mercer claimed, other than Tommy Morrison, Bert Cooper is also up there when it comes to talk about the hardest punchers he ever fought.
    "Ray Mercer: Yes. Wladimir Klitschko hit me in the temple, first time I was ever hit like that, but it wasn't a hard punch. I'm talking about pain, it was Tommy Morrison and Bert Cooper."
    https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.*******.com/amp/*******-exclusive-ray-mercer-interview--1787
    Bowe was a big puncher and no bum in that department, George's power was greater, though Bowe's was not that far behind.
    But , he certainly hit harder than Bonavena and Ali....oh and also mike bruce!!
    As for Toney, Holyfield was so shot he made a literally shot Cleveland williams look like prime joe Louis!!
     
  15. Toney F*** U

    Toney F*** U Boxing junkie Full Member

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    If Holyfield has a good game plan and sticks with it, I can see him getting a tko on a gassed Foreman late in the fight.