Takam was beating Joyce, terrible stoppage decision by referee

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  1. BoxerToxer

    BoxerToxer Member banned Full Member

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    I just watched the highlights below, Joyce vs Takam. Takam was clearly ahead in points, he was outboxing and beating Joyce. Only the last round he took too many shots, and the referee thought he was done. Actually he was far from done. The referee gave the wrong decision in my opinion.

    Probably they wanted to save Joyce for winner of Usyk vs Joshua.

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  2. Jackomano

    Jackomano Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Takam wasn’t fighting back enough and kept absorbing punishment, so I don’t blame the ref for stopping it.
     
  3. Likethembigroundchunky

    Likethembigroundchunky Member Full Member

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    He was just standing there being hit and barely answering back. Fair stoppage imo. Takem should have held or taken a knee.
     
  4. Serge

    Serge Ginger Dracula Staff Member

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    He must've took close to 35-40 shots during that non-stop assault from Joyce after being hurt
     
  5. Ty is That Guy

    Ty is That Guy Member Full Member

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    Fair stoppage. Takam was not firing back for almost half a round. And Joyce was not letting up.
     
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  6. CST80

    CST80 De Omnibus Dubitandum Staff Member

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    No, Takam would land about 4 overhand rights, then Joyce would nail him with roughly 30 punches that somehow no one seemed to notice. In short, Takam wasn't even close to winning this match, and the people who thought he was, are kind of delusional. The stoppage was fine, he almost went down from both shots that buckled him. Joe's gas tank is incredible, he wouldn't have wilted, this was only going to end one way.
     
  7. BoxerToxer

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    I disagree with comments above. Takam clearly outboxed Joyce, please watch the highlights above. Takam won all the first 5 rounds.

    Yes, Joyce landed too many hard shots in the last round, but Takam was far from being knocked out. No need for stoppage. At the end of the round 6, the scores would be 59 - 55.
     
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  8. anjawnaymiz

    anjawnaymiz Can we get Ivan Dychko some momentum Full Member

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    Was only a matter of time anyway, get over it
     
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  9. Reg

    Reg Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Takam wasn't out on his feet but you can only go so long sustaining damage without throwing punches before the fight is stopped and the ref gave him a lot of time to do something and he just didn't.

    This was a better stoppage than Takam vs AJ.
     
  10. Brighton bomber

    Brighton bomber Loyal Member Full Member

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    Takam had success but then he always has success, gave Povetkin fits, was beating on Chisora until he walked into a right hand, only Joshua had an easy time with him and that's because Takam went into survival mode and got on his bike once he felt Joshua's power.

    So while Takam did land some very hard shots, in my personal opinion it became very obvious once Joyce had taken some flush full power shots off of Takam with literally no effect, the writing was on the wall. We've seen Joyce box conservatively vs DDD but against Takam we saw old Joyce the one who just walks through journeymen. He had no respect for Takam's power, took shot after shot like they were jabs and just plowed forward landing his slow but heavy shots to break him down.

    So yes very competitive while it lasted but it became very clear early on Takam wasn't going to win this once it became clear he didn't have the power to hurt him.

    The stoppage was fine. Ref's will always intervene if you start taking punches and don't fire back and Takam was bent over just taking shots for ages and was wobbled twice. Davidson himself said the ref needed to have a look at stopping it before it was stopped, he clearly said that for a reason, Takam looked like he was unable to defend himself, because he was literally doing nothing but get hit over and over again.
     
  11. BoxerToxer

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    You can't know if Takam's shots weren't affecting Joyce. It was only round 6, there were 6 more rounds to go. Joyce would eventually be wore down.
     
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  12. Jackson75

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    Takam was ahead but gassed. Matter of time, ref did the right thing.
     
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  13. Safin

    Safin Boxing Addict banned Full Member

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    It now must be laid to rest that Tickling Takam is any good. He looked like a child in there with Joyce. Joyce must have been laughing inside.Takam has never beaten a decent opponent in his entire career and was gassed after 10 minutes - an absolute joke. "He's in great shape" - his hypertrophic physique is his selling point but it comes with the compromise that he has no stamina. Lay off the Men's Classic physique dosages.

    I have no idea how you could say that it was a bad stoppage, Takam looked like he just stepped outside a nightclub at 3am and Joyce was ready to hit him clean with more shots.
     
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  14. Brighton bomber

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    Sure if Joyce was a fighter known for tiring late or if Takam wasn't known to be a fighter who fades late, he's twice been stopped when winning fights early before, then you might have a point.

    But it was clear Takam wasn't going to stop him anytime soon because his punches literally had no effect on Joyce and Joyce was landing more and more on Takam himself as the fight was progressing. When you have 2 guys one known for endless stamina and relentless work rate and a guy known to do well early then fade, who do you think is going to win the fight? Doesn't take a genius to know the writing was on the wall.
     
  15. Brighton bomber

    Brighton bomber Loyal Member Full Member

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    A bit harsh, he's clearly a handful early in fights. A top contender? No clearly he isn't that, a dangerous gate keeper type is where Takam resides along with Chisora. He's a stiff test for any top contender, though as the Joshua fight showed the very top guys will just dominate him much like Chisora was dominated when he fought Vitali.
     
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