Could The Best Of Lennox Beat The Best Of Joe Frazier?

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Who takes it?

  1. Lewis?

    78.1%
  2. Frazier?

    21.9%
  1. robert ungurean

    robert ungurean Богдан Philadelphia Full Member

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    No easy feat for Frazier but I believe he wins
     
  2. Kamikaze

    Kamikaze Bye for now! banned Full Member

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    No,no that Foreman is as overrated as Lewis.
     
  3. robert ungurean

    robert ungurean Богдан Philadelphia Full Member

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    I'm a pretty big Foreman fan. He may not have the boxing skills of Lewis but hes more confident stronger willed much much much better chin and hits harder IMO. I'm frankly just not a Lewis fan. Hes a great fighter but just lacks certain traits for me
     
  4. Kamikaze

    Kamikaze Bye for now! banned Full Member

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    Foreman had a strong will not doubt and was a brute. Lennox was… in my opinion an opportunist whom was good enough but just a decently skilled guy with a lot of size.

    You can pick his resume almost clean of any really great wins- Bar who Vitali? Who was no great (IMO) The rest is mostly good management.
     
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  5. Gazelle Punch

    Gazelle Punch Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    I would call that no fault of his own though. Everyone avoided him. He probably would have beat Bowe. holy and Tyson earlier had they fought him earlier.
     
  6. RulesMakeItInteresting

    RulesMakeItInteresting Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Well, they were both champions, which adds credence. Though I think alphabet belt champs is what some would argue (not entirely convinced how "bad" that designation is, considering Holmes was an alphabet champ and ruled the division for nearly 7 years).
     
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  7. NoNeck

    NoNeck Pugilist Specialist

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    Rahman was lineal. McCall beat two ATG heavies and a handful of men who would hold titles or had held titles.
     
  8. NoNeck

    NoNeck Pugilist Specialist

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    Foreman was king of opportunists.
     
  9. Fergy

    Fergy Walking Dead Full Member

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    He certainly was in his second career.
     
  10. Kamikaze

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    100%
     
  11. RulesMakeItInteresting

    RulesMakeItInteresting Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    I forgot about that, my friend. Thanks for the school.
     
  12. GOAT Primo Carnera

    GOAT Primo Carnera Member of the PC Fan Club Full Member

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    Opposite day :D ?

    A guy who could use the Foreman route or the Ali route to win has the worst matchup against Joe Frazier. :lol: 30 to 40 lb bigger than him. Ok.
     
  13. Brighton bomber

    Brighton bomber Loyal Member Full Member

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    Styles makes fights and this match up doesn't look good for Frazier.

    Lewis struggles vs guys with good jabs, big right hands, that's not Frazier, Lewis tended to dominate smaller left hookers.

    Lewis lead hand control would be key, much how Foreman used his strength to push, lean, manipulate Frazier maneuvering him into vulnerable positions and forcing him to reset Lewis would do the same with the lead hand which is part of the Kronk style, Hearns and Wlad did the same, Fury also used these techniques vs Wilder. I just can't see how Frazier deals with being posted, collar tied, pushed and leaned on.

    Then you have Lewis' uppercut. I see Lewis pushing Frazier down with his left then connecting with the uppercut. Lewis KO's him inside 6 rds, even the FOC Frazier.
     
  14. Fergy

    Fergy Walking Dead Full Member

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    It would be a painful bout for Frazier for the reasons you just mentioned. I know John mentioned it, the uppercut.
    Those shots from a massive hitter like LL are so punishing and if your coming on in to em, well there s only so much you can take.

    Joe scared of no man and that's the problem I belive. Fighting like Joe does is just gonna give Lewis an easier target.
     
  15. ETM

    ETM I thought I did enough to win. Full Member

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    Eh..Mathis would probably beat both of them.
     
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