the what fights did you watch today\scorecard thread.

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  1. salsanchezfan

    salsanchezfan Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    The WBC is so dirty. :lol:

    I can't remember my exact score, it's somewhere in this thread, but I seem to remember having in 115-113 Gonzalez. As you note, he had to rally late which at the time I took him to task for, seeing Espinoza as the smaller, slower, older man that should have been easier for the champion than he was. Kudos to Espinoza though, he brought it.
     
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  2. scartissue

    scartissue Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Sal, did you ever see Espinoza's bout with Julio Gervacio? Fantastic! A beautiful blend of styles and momentum changes. I think you'd love it.
     
  3. Saintpat

    Saintpat Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Love me some Louie Espinosa.

    Really lived up to his Sharpshooter nickname. Could punch straight as an arrow and impeccable timing with his power shots.

    His two fights with Jorge Paez are a great contrast in styles that just meshed perfectly.
     
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  4. salsanchezfan

    salsanchezfan Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    I haven't, but will get on that!
     
  5. scartissue

    scartissue Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Chong Pal Park v Vinnie Curto II

    Round 1: 10-9 Curto
    Round 2: 10-9 Park
    Round 3: 10-8 Park (scores a knockdown)
    Round 4: 10-9 Park
    Round 5: 10-9 Curto
    Round 6: 10-9 Park
    Round 7: 10-9 Park
    Round 8: 10-9 Park
    Round 9: 10-10 Even
    Round 10: 10-9 Park
    Round 11: 10-9 Curto
    Round 12: 10-9 Park
    Round 13: 10-9 Park
    Round 14: 10-8 Park (Park batters Curto)
    Round 15: Park drops and stops Curto

    Total through 14 completed rounds: 137-129 Park (actual scores: 137-129, 137-130 and an unusual 133-131 all for Park)

    I don't know what was with Curto in this fight. A 14 year pro and he gets a shot at the world title (his second against Park) and really never mounts any kind of an offense against the champ. The most he showed throughout was a stabbing/thudding jab. I've said it before that Park's success was solely on the fact that there was a newly created division and the Korean-friendly WBA got him a title shot. Otherwise the best you would have ever heard from him was winning an OPBF title. But regardless of my feelings on this, back to Curto. He blew it big time in the 8th and 9th. Park punched himself out half way through the 8th trying to take Vinnie out. He was knackered but the best Vinnie would do was to stab him with the jab. He was still exhausted in the 9th and again, Vinnie was stabbing with the jab. By the end of the round Park got his second win and the moment was gone. The most exciting part of the fight was between rounds 3 and 4 when a scantily clad hottie entered the ring and tried to spar with the referee before they escorted her out.

     
  6. Showstopper97

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    Gervonta Davis vs Jose Pedraza

    Rounds Won
    Davis - 1,2,3,4,6
    Pedraza - 5

    Notes
    - Pedraza was winning the first 2 mins of Round 2 & would have won the round but Davis came back with some powerful punches that rocked Pedraza to steal the round.
    - Davis scores a KD to win the fight after the ref waves it off in the 7th.
    - I had Davis ahead by 5 points at the time of the stoppage.

    My Scorecard
    (D)59 - 54(P)
    Winner: Davis via 7th TKO

    Review
    A good, solid fight between 2 talented, green fighters; and it ended with the green challenger getting the W to claim the IBF 130lb title. Davis controlled the bout from the opening bell & dominated most of the action - landing big punches early. Pedraza hung tough & fought back valiantly - showing a champions heart, but most of his punches were insignificant; as most were just quick flurries with no substance behind them. He also made bizarre noises from the 4th round on when he would flurry.

    After a brief comeback in the 5th for Pedraza, Davis would swiftly take control of the bout - landing killer shots in the 6th (Pedraza has one helluva chin) & ultimately stopped him in the 7th when the referee waved it off after a knockdown that Pedraza got up from, but appeared to be out on his feet. A good, solid win for Davis & his best to date (IMO).​
     
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  7. scartissue

    scartissue Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Needed a good slam-bang affair today and I found a good one. Saw it years ago and well worth it again.

    Tommy Morrison v Carl 'The Truth' Williams

    Round 1: 10-8 Morrison (scores a knockdown)
    Round 2: 10-9 Williams
    Round 3: 10-8 Morrison (scores a knockdown)
    Round 4: 10-9 Williams
    Round 5: 10-7 Williams (scores 2 knockdowns)
    Round 6: 10-10 Even
    Round 7: 10-9 Williams
    Round 8: Morrison stops Williams

    Total through 7 completed rounds: 66-64 Williams (actual scores: 65-64 Morrison and 2 scores of 65-64 for Williams)

    Just a damn good affair between 2 fast, sharp and in-shape heavyweights. I yearn to see these again. Again, a damn good fight.
     
  8. lookatcurryman

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    Yesterday I watched Raul Soriano Vs Armando Muniz, hell of a fight, would definitely recommend. Had Soriano winning 6-4, I gave him rds 1, 4, 5, 7, 8, & 10. Rds 2, 3, 6, & 9 I gave to Muniz.
     
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  9. scartissue

    scartissue Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    I checked this one out a few months back. This is what I wrote:

    I watched a 10 rounder today that I saw on a tape delay of about 6 months back in '72. My favorite fighter of all time was Armando Muniz and here he is in a 10 rounder with the veteran Raul 'Chato' Soriano. Man, watching this all this time later brings me back to hearing Mickey Davies and Tom Harmon broadcasting from the Forum. And the fight was awesome. California scoring of one point for a round and none for an even round.

    Armando Muniz v Raul Soriano

    Round 1: Soriano
    Round 2: Even
    Round 3: Soriano
    Round 4: Soriano
    Round 5: Muniz
    Round 6: Muniz
    Round 7: Soriano
    Round 8: Soriano
    Round 9: Muniz
    Round 10: Muniz

    Total: 5-4 Soriano (actual scores: 5-5 and two scores of 6-3 for Soriano by a majority decision)

    You know I'm a Muniz die-hard when I'm screaming for blood when Muniz has Soriano in distress those last two rounds of a fight that took place 48 years ago. I have to give Soriano credit. Man, he knew every trick in the book. Good fight.
     
  10. salsanchezfan

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    You're right! Excellent scrap!

    Espinoza: 3, 5, 7, 8
    Gervacio: 1, 2, 4, 6, 9, 10, 11, 12 (10-8 in the 12th, as he scores a KD).

    116-111, Gervacio

    Nice blend of styles, as you mentioned. Espinoza is so fun. Always in tremendous shape, and he's a little like Arguello or a two-fisted danny Lopez in that when he lands his seemingly slow, ponderous shots, he moves you. His punches exact a toll and physically wilt fighters. Gervacio, by contrast, was much faster and featured the movement and was generally more accurate and effective, but his punches pinged where Espinoza's punches boomed if that makes sense. It's just that Gervacio was so much faster and credit must be given to him for his own conditioning and resolve; after round eight, where it looked for all the world as if Espinoza was about to take over and all the momentum was his, he came back and took the play away, never again to relinquish it at least on my card. A well-earned win for him, and another tough loss for Louie who, even when losing a fight made his opponent work hard.
     
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  11. scartissue

    scartissue Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Sal, I had it slightly closer at 116-113 for Gervacio, but totally agree on everything you wrote. I wrote the same thing about Louie looking like he was ready to end this after the 7th and 8th. Gervacio looked like he was coming apart at the seams, but then it was like Louie took his foot off the gas rather than anything exceptional Gervacio did. But Julio was no fool, he took full advantage of the fact that the pressure waned and he took off from there. Glad you liked it.
     
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  12. Saintpat

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    Louie was one of those guys who had one gear. He fought steadily in that gear rather than being able to take it up a notch to turn on the heat or down a notch to coast.
     
  13. scartissue

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    Stevie Johnston v Alejandro Gonzalez

    Round 1: 10-10 Even
    Round 2: 10-9 Johnston
    Round 3: 10-9 Johnston
    Round 4: 10-10 Even
    Round 5: 10-9 Johnston
    Round 6: 10-9 Johnston
    Round 7: 10-10 Even
    Round 8: 10-9 Gonzalez
    Round 9: 10-9 Johnston
    Round 10: 10-9 Johnston
    Round 11: 10-9 Johnston
    Round 12: 10-9 Gonzalez

    Total: 118-113 Johnston (actual scores: 116-112 and 116-113 both for Johnston and an unbelievable 114-114 Draw for a majority win for Stevie Johnston.

    I really like both these fighters. Seen them both many times. However, this is not some slugfest. This is a wonderful exhibition of some beautiful boxing on the part of Johnston. Gonzalez tried, but Johnstone had every move in the book. Just a beautiful job of boxing, countering and doing so in the pocket.
     
  14. scartissue

    scartissue Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Had this on another thread, but it belongs here. Scoring on the Illinois 10 point system, which divides the 10 points. So, 6-4 for the winner of a round and 5-5 for an even round.

    Rocky Castellani v Johnny Bratton II


    Round 1: 6-4 Castellani
    Round 2: 6-4 Castellani
    Round 3: 6-4 Bratton
    Round 4: 6-4 Castellani
    Round 5: 6-4 Castellani
    Round 6: 6-4 Castellani
    Round 7: 5-5 Even
    Round 8: 6-4 Bratton
    Round 9: 6-4 Castellani
    Round 10: 6-4 Castellani

    Total: 55-45 Castellani (actual scores: 56-44 and 52-48 both for Castellani and a 51-49 for Bratton)

    Very entertaining fight. Bratton was so pinpoint with his shots, but he just didn't throw enough of them. Castellani was so strong and continually throwing those clubbing punches of his, which won it on my card on workrate. First time seeing Castellani fight. By his record, I always assumed he was more boxer than anything else due to his low KO percentage. Although I did see on an old film when he dropped Sugar Ray for a count of 9, I thought it was a bit of an anomaly. But he was a real banger on the inside.
     
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  15. Saintpat

    Saintpat Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    I envy you, Scar (or should I call you Tish, haha?), for being able to work through so many fights in such detail.

    I thought I was going to find one tonight but major storms in the area have my WiFi off (including my cable — I like to watch them on my big screen off YouTube) and I’m reduced to cellular data with my iPad and videos just spin and spin pretty much so no dice.

    Maybe this coming week I can carve out time to do one or two.

    Please keep it up. You’re a fan of eclectic taste and I enjoy reading your accounts.
     
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