Is Usyk an all-time-great fighter?

Discussion in 'World Boxing Forum' started by ENI_3300, Jul 30, 2021.


Is Usyk an all -time-great ?

Poll closed Jul 30, 2022.

  1. No

    31 vote(s)
    33.3%

  2. Yes

    62 vote(s)
    66.7%
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  1. MarkusFlorez99

    MarkusFlorez99 Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    I've been known ever since I've seen people in this forum claim Tyson Fury is the greatest boxer of all time. I go on reddit boxing from time to time and it's far better, which is incredibly ironic. It's that bad.

    This forum is a toxic place and i thrive off the chaos. I can't get enough. There's no end to the stupidity in this forum and it's amusing.
     
    MarkusFlorez99, Aug 2, 2021
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  2. NEETzschean

    NEETzschean Well-Known Member banned Full Member

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    Why stop short of proclaiming Usyk the GOAT? Because Chisora is a fringe contender/high level journeyman today who has been beaten legitimately 7-8 times and more convincingly at least twice before. If Usyk beats elite super-heavyweight AJ while several years past his prime and away from home, he has a good argument for "P4P" No. 1. If he beats AJ twice and later becomes undisputed he's the GOAT.
     
    NEETzschean, Aug 2, 2021
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  3. From.Russia

    From.Russia Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Are we judging him by one division like Hagler? Then he is 100% Top 3 Cruiserweight of all time and off course an ATG
     
    From.Russia, Aug 2, 2021
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  4. bandeedo

    bandeedo Loyal Member Full Member

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    ok, man. i dont see how anyone would benefit from debating these notions when thats the logic were adhering to. it serves no purpose outside of embarrassing myself for even involving myself in it.
     
    bandeedo, Aug 2, 2021
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  5. senpai

    senpai Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Why are you guys rushing ? It's only two months left.

    I like to see some reactions on this forum if Usyk beats him by KO.
     
    senpai, Aug 2, 2021
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  6. On The Money

    On The Money Dangerous Journeyman Full Member

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    If that happens he deserves every accolade.
     
    On The Money, Aug 2, 2021
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  7. senpai

    senpai Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Maybe, but still not everyone would be convinced that he is proven at HW.
     
    senpai, Aug 2, 2021
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  8. MarkusFlorez99

    MarkusFlorez99 Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    He would be easily be proven at HW if he beat Joshua, but he would not be an ATG HW. Because Ruiz already did it
     
    MarkusFlorez99, Aug 2, 2021
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  9. senpai

    senpai Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Of course not, he has to beat AJ second time in london, than Fury in vegas and than someone like Whyte or Wilder.
     
    senpai, Aug 2, 2021
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  10. DanielDimov

    DanielDimov Jabbing all night Full Member

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    Yes
     
    DanielDimov, Aug 2, 2021
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  11. Vegan Beast

    Vegan Beast Grandpappy Ortiz Full Member

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    If he becomes a champion at heavyweight, he could be considered ATG in general.

    But I think he deserves to be considered an ATG at CW//
     
    Vegan Beast, Aug 2, 2021
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  12. Rumsfeld

    Rumsfeld Moderator Staff Member

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    I think it's more than mere speculation when you also include his victories in rematches against both Bowe and Moorer.

    I believe each 5 of those wins trumps beating Chisora, but surely you don't rate Usyk's win against Chisora higher than you'd rate Evander's win against Bowe? Do you?
     
    Rumsfeld, Aug 2, 2021
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  13. DON1

    DON1 ICEMAN Full Member

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    Absolutely not. The ATG tag gets passed around far too easily. Top figher? Yes. ATG. NO!
     
    DON1, Aug 2, 2021
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  14. Mordechai

    Mordechai Boxing Addict Full Member

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    This guy cleaned out a murderous row of talent in their backyard.

    He is a definition of a atg. Period

    If he beats joshua and Fury then he will clearly be an atg at heavy
     
    Mordechai, Aug 2, 2021
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  15. Pimp C

    Pimp C Too Much Motion

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    He's an ATG at CW don't know if he's a top 100 ATG though. If he beats AJ he will be a top 100 ATG or better no doubt about it.
     
    Pimp C, Aug 2, 2021
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