Spence (PBC) - Pacquiao, and the judges. How many rounds enough for the win

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  1. Pimp C

    Pimp C Too Much Motion Full Member

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    Pbf beat those same fighters most of them first. The point is jmm is a great fighter but if you're going to call him the GOAT as you do you shouldn't need 4 fights against him nor should you get ktfo by him nor should you lose to pbf wide. I used to always tell overzealous pac fans like you that if you can't beat jmm clearly in 4 fights then you're not beating pbf and I was proven right.
     
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  2. gdm

    gdm Boxing Junkie banned Full Member

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    he won the fight, there was no schooling. He schooled gatti , not clen.
     
  3. Pimp C

    Pimp C Too Much Motion Full Member

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    I disagree Canelo won 2 rounds at best in that fight. It was a schooling.
     
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  4. gdm

    gdm Boxing Junkie banned Full Member

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    If I would have to bet I’d prob bet on floyd against prime pac due to a size difference, but very close fight. On a neutral
    De la hoya 50 / 50 , considering de la hoya is 4 years older and had really close fight with prime floyd, so I could favor him over floyd.
    Floyd had a few close fights that could have went either way and yes he did wait for fighters to age , just like he used every advantage when he could , juicing and other shyt. All others did it too when they could. Canelo does it now.
    No schooling against clen. Not even close to schooling.
     
  5. gdm

    gdm Boxing Junkie banned Full Member

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    some rounds were to close to score for either.
     
  6. scandcb

    scandcb Active Member Full Member

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    Mayweather's style of boxing was less dependent on youth than that of other boxers. I think Mayweather was very close to his peak when he boxed Canelo.

    I rate Mayweather a lot higher than Canelo btw.
     
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  7. scandcb

    scandcb Active Member Full Member

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    This is true.

    Pac beat Hatton at his best weight.

    Beat ODH far more convincingly than Mayweather did.

    Beat Mosley without being in trouble like Mayweather was in the 2nd round.

    And beat a better version of Cotto than Mayweather managed and with greater ease.

    Mayweather obviously had an easier time with JMM but Pac performed better overall against common opponents.
     
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  8. elmaldito

    elmaldito Skillz Full Member

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    pac needs 7 clear and a knockdown for a dec
     
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  9. dangerousity

    dangerousity Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    He could have still fought Conor, anytime, Mcgregor is a huge name and therefore huge money regardless.

    And him fighting any of the Paul’s would generate more than the Spence fight.

    He could move down to 140 and fight Taylor and sell out a stadium in UK.

    Point is, there are far easier ways to make money for Pac. Pac has always taken on all-comers.

    Not long ago, people claimed Pac ducked Crawford when that obviously was not the case. Anyone applying some basic critical thought to it knew that Arum was making up B.S, his excuse was “I didn’t want to put up at 37 year old Pac against Crawford cos he’ll get hurt”, whilst at the same time trying to put a 43 year old against Crawford.

    He’s literally fought everyone at WW and as soon as he moved to PBC, he started cleaning house. Keeping in mind that he’s a part time boxer with a full-time job in the senate, otherwise if he was still fighting 3x a year, he would have ran through the entire roster.

    And lol at ragging on Pac for having a tough night with Horn. More people had Maidana beating Floyd than people had Horn beating Pac. Maidana is Horn level or just above. Maidana lost to Kotelnik, Khan and Alexander ffs. Floyd had a rough night as he didn’t deal with the roughing up all that well, and the fight took place in Floyds backyard. Now imagine that took place in Argentina as Pac fought Horn in Aus. I 100% guarantee Floyd would have taken the L that night, if not in the ring, at the very least, on the judges scorecard.

    So let’s put some perspective on this here. Pac fought a guy way bigger than him, a guy now fighting MW in Australia whilst the ref allowed Horn to do whatever he wants and the judges very much in favour of Horn. Floyd has never faced such odds.
     
  10. Pimp C

    Pimp C Too Much Motion Full Member

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    What you fail to realize is that Horn is bum level status. The fight should have never been close, it should have been a blow out win for Pac. Face it, Horn was a cherry pick gone wrong. Also, Maidana is light years better than Horn stop with that nonsense. Maidana did good early in that fight mostly because PBF got cut early for the first time in his career and it bothered him but Maidana did nothing in the second half of it after PBF adjusted to the cut, close fight so they ran it back and PBF beat him again. What happened to Pac trying to avenge his loss to Horn? He still has those problems in a bad loss on his record. Like I always say Pac fans have excuses for every loss funny how that works.
     
  11. Pimp C

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    PBF beat Hatton 1st
    PBF beat Oscar 1st at 154 and did not face a zombie like Pac did
    PBF beat Shane 1st lost 1 round to Mosley and Mosley dropped Pac
    Pac beat Cotto 1st I will give you that but better version not so sure about that
    Pac never beat JMM clearly and was put into a coma by him. PBF shut JMM out so badly that JMM never wanted to avenge the loss despite a shot at redemption and a career high payday but was willing to fight Pac 4 times that right there tells you everything you need to know.
     
  12. Pimp C

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    I disagree he was no where close to his peak. His peak was against Gatti years ago and his last prime fight was against JMM in 2009. He was faded and 36 when he fought Canelo. What 36 year old fighter is close to their peak? No one is.
     
  13. DynamicMoves

    DynamicMoves Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Pretty good trolling.
     
  14. Pimp C

    Pimp C Too Much Motion Full Member

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    He did. A knock down was scored
     
  15. HolDat

    HolDat Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Stans love hedging their bets before fights...