How could Foreman beat people like Larry Holmes and how would he fair in the modern era?

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  1. Rakesh

    Rakesh Well-Known Member Full Member

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    I love George, absolutely legendary fighter in his day and has made some insane accomplishments, but in his considered prime (early to mid 70s) he seemed slow and get caught a lot by fast jabs and crosses, which a guy like Larry Holmes absolutely loved catching people with. The Ali fight should how one dimensional he was and how he dealt with fast punches, would he have any chance with fighters like Larry Holmes? Would he even be able to defeat modern heavyweights such as Fury, Joshua, Wilder Whyte, etc?
     
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  2. It's Ovah

    It's Ovah I am very feel me good. Full Member

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    Why the hell wouldn't Foreman be able to take out someone like Wilder or Whyte?
     
  3. Bumnard_Hopkins

    Bumnard_Hopkins Burger King banned Full Member

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    Wilder might knock Foreman out. Not a guarantee but still a possibility.
    Whyte is another matter.
     
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  4. Kratos

    Kratos Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Foreman only lost to ali because ali had ridiculous pain tolerance and a top chin, foreman said many years ago how if he could go back to that fight he would just out jab ali and not chase him. Foreman would destroy all the other heavyweights today and it would be sad to see the damage they would take.
     
  5. dangerousity

    dangerousity Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Foreman looked more wild and worser technique then even Wilder
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    Foreman was just tough as hell, huge for his time and hit like a truck, which sometimes is 80% of boxing.
     
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  6. Surrix

    Surrix Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Fight Foreman vs Ali had happend in Zaire: climate looks that was more suitable for Ali not Foreman.
    Ali never had gave Foreman rematch. Zaire dictator was Ali fan and in US or U.K with long boxing traditions ring ropes had been checked by experienced inspectors.
    Ali never had gave Foreman rematch. Never and for a reason.
    They also had dragged Frazier to fight vs Ali in Manile, too looks that climate was more suitable for Ali. Otherwise why King bothered to manage this one in hole instead to sell xxxxxx very expensive tickets in US or UK?
    You really think so?
    I think Frazier and Norton had delivered Wilder into hospital if he had fought them.

    What Wilder might had done vs Frazier? Throw hail mary money punch, prefereably from long distance.
    While vs Frazier if you will miss this 1-2 times and he will manage close distance: look at fights Ali vs Frazier. These were not difficult fights for Foreman while Ali had total ultimate torture. Ali actually might had been 1-2 vs Frazier and Norton and this had been only fair and good outcome.

    Foreman was not dumb and managed to prevent his face getting jabbed by Norton with high effect and not to allow Frazier took comfortable for him distance and angles.
    Some ppl compare Chisora and Whyte vs Frazier.
    Frazier had damn good gas tank even maybe for 20 rounds fight and was productive damn as hell if compare with casual HW boxers.
     
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  7. It's Ovah

    It's Ovah I am very feel me good. Full Member

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    No, that's selling him way short.

    Watch him again.
     
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  8. Ted Stickles

    Ted Stickles Boxing Addict Full Member

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    The real question should really be do you think Holmes could have handled what Foreman hit Ali with in Zaire? Holmes was a great fighter no doubt about it, but would he have been able to handle George’s offensive like Ali was able to absorb. He did have the talent to outbox George, but even a young Foreman was great at cutting off the ring and had insane punching and physical power. I’m pretty sure Foreman could take Larry’s power, but how would Larry handle George’s?
     
  9. RulesMakeItInteresting

    RulesMakeItInteresting Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Prime George was too wide with his punches, most of them would be lost on Holmes. The shot Shavers almost knocked Larry out with wasn't particularly looped, about as straight as a power punch could be. Those kinds of punches were the exception not the rule for Foreman.

    George would have a great puncher's chance, and he was a better finisher than Shavers.

    If you watch the first round of the Ali fight, it's quite possible that would be somewhat like what Holmes-Foreman would have been. Jab, throw the lead right when apropos, hold. Holmes wasn't particularly smaller than George, so he wouldn't get moved into punches that easy, he was a strong man.

    Holmes TKO in 11
     
  10. AwardedSteak863

    AwardedSteak863 Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Too me, Foreman Holmes prime for prime is a pickem fight. I think a lot of folks are underestimating how skilled Foreman was because his style is so ugly. In his younger days he certainly relied a little to much on his power but when he used his jab he was pretty tough to beat and next to impossible to move backward.

    As for the 90's versions of Foreman and Holmes I give the edge to Foreman who was a much more patient and cerebral fighter than his earlier days. Take a look at the 11th round of Foreman vs Holyfied and watch how badly he had Holyfeild hurt. Had Holyfield tried to fight out of that instead of hold on he could have ended up like Michael Moorer.

    90's Hopmes was no slouch either. He performed well against Mercer, McCall and Holyfileld.
     
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  11. catchwtboxing

    catchwtboxing Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Based on those huge wins over Stiverne and Ortiz?

    Dude, really, do you actually watch boxing?
     
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  12. Bumnard_Hopkins

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    Do you? Foreman was a very crude boxer. He often blocked punches with his head.

    Wilder could definitely catch him with a huge right hand.

    Like he destroyed Jimmy Young?
     
  13. Abysswalker

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    Emmanuel Steward says Foreman even might be underrated and that he is the heavyweight who he would have most wanted to work with. Yet there are idiots here who are comparing him to Wilder.

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  14. catchwtboxing

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    Wilder has been dropped by Tyson Fury, Foreman engaged in epic brawls with Lyle and Cooney. Foreman would easily shrug anything Wilder threw, and knock him out with one punch.

    As for crude, have you ever watched Wilder fight?
     
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  15. MarkusFlorez99

    MarkusFlorez99 Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Ridiculous. Wilder is not more skilled than Foreman. Sayin so really exposes the casual in you.

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