Sexy Sergio: Manny Pacquiao Is Top 4 or 5 GOAT + Brian Castano: Pacquiao is the GOAT.

"I remember it vividly" change the prescription son...

 

I didn't hear a single word Sergio spoke. All I heard was Bach's air in g. What is going on.

 

Erik so shot at 29 he comes back 5 years later to school Maidana, a guy who beat Up Floyd. 4 weight classes above his prime. Nice.

And your logic is just dumb. Anyone can play that game. Look at Floyds record:

1. canelo - green catchweight in Vegas, floyds backyard
2. Pac - injured, waited till old, in his backyard with his ref and judges
3. Castillo - robbed
4. Maidana - robbed
5. Corrales - just got out of prison and weight drained
6. Mosley - shot
7. Oscar - shot and got destroyed just 10 months later
8. Hatton - destroyed far worse by Pac at his prime weight, Floyd fought him at 147, not prime.

And it goes on.

For a guy who claims PAC’s factual reasons for not getting the decision vs Floyd are all “excuses”, you sure make a lot of excuses for his opponents to undermine his wins.

 

You mean Erik Morales came back on roids got busted for them and still lost to people. He was done after he lost to Pac he needed roids to rejuvenate his career, that doesn't count.

Canelo PBF was 36 and faded Canelo was the ring champ and Ranked in the top 10 P4P. I don't recall anyone calling Teo Lopez green when he beat Loma and he was younger than Canelo when he fought PBF. Excuses!!!

Pac- PBF was old and shot and beat Pac not because of a shoulder but because he was better and Pac had no answer for PBF's ability to control range and dictate distance on him. No more excuses PBF was older than Pac was.

JLC lost a close fight against PBF who had a bad shoulder and even complained to his corner about it during the fight unlike Pac. They had a rematch and a healthy PBF won going away.

Maidana lost 2x against a 37 year old and shot PBF. In the 1st fight he fouled and cut PBF early which bothered him and took him awhile to adjust. Maidana did nothing the second half of that fight and lost 2x.

Chico No one made any excuses for PBF when he was facing prison time before his fight with Cotto but now all of a sudden people want to make excuses for Chico???? LMFAO not only that Chico fought at 130 years after PBF schooled him and even won a title at that weight. More excuses the story of a PBF hater.

Mosley You mean the same Shane who was ranked #3 P4P after his destruction of Margo??? Now he was shot? But people like you call it a good win for Pac even though he beat Shane after PBF did.

Oscar He was the WBC champ at 154 he wasn't prime but he wasn't shot either he was shot and a zombie when Pac beat him. The version of Oscar PBF beat and the version that Pac beat can't be compared. Stop!

Hatton Blame Hatton for turning PBF down back in 2005 when both were at 140 and after PBF had just beat Gatti and Hatton had just beat Zoo. It was Hatton's team who said he wasn't ready to fight PBF at 140 and turned him down. Then PBF left 140 never getting a chance to be lineal at the weight. PBF beat Hatton first the weight was never an excuse even Hatton stated that he preferred to fight PBF at 147 instead of 140 because he wouldn't have to spend alot of time in camp cutting weight and he could concentrate on boxing. Hatton never made any excuses why are you?

As you can see you've had your ass handed to you yet once again. Don't get made at be that overzealous idiots and casuals want to crown Pac the GOAT when he needed 4 fights with JMM and never beat him clearly and got KTFO by him lost wide in his legacy fight to PBF and his best clear win is MAB and wasn't even the best fighter of his own era. You're not a top 10 ATG with that resume let alone the GOAT those are facts.

 

Freakin idiot thinks Floyd was SHOT when he faced Pac... what a twat. That pretty much proved Gimpy has no idea what he sees. He needs people to tell him what to think.

 

Pac ducked Paulie from 2008-09. Fact!

 

Finally an unbiased post in this thread . I was starting to lose all hope.

 

don't be silly.... the heck is wrong with some posters...

 

Pac went life and death and lost with a guy Crawford brutalized
Pac needed 4 fights against a guy PBF shut out
Pac fought a zombie in Oscar, PBF didn't. Cotto gave PBF a better fight than Pac did.
PBF beat Hatton at his own game and stopped him first.
PBF is 1-0 against Pac and his two best wins in Pac and Canelo are > than anyone Pac beat

 

PBF only fought 2x after Pac and 1 was a MMA fighter and looked shot in both and retired. Even a shot PBF is better than some but he was indeed shot no where close to his best when he took Pac to slick school.

 

He was PAST PRIME. Do you have any idea WTF shot actually means? It means you can't pull the trigger at all. You try to say Floyd is shot so you could say 'A shot Floyd beat...." You can't ever be genuine here.

 

He looked like **** Lance I know a shot PBF when I see it. He was faded against Canelo more so against Maidana but his skill level and ring IQ are so good he was able to get by this helped him against Maidana Pac and Berto. PBF's skill level was so high compared to others he got by but for PBF he was shot. He looked absolutely awful against Maidana Pac and Berto.

 

- I believe majority would agree that Pac was robbed and Jeff Horn was given backyard decision just like Floyd who was always given a backyard decision.

- Pac just had one fight at 135 and had to jump two weight divisions while Delahoya had to go down one weight so that they can settle to fight at welterweight. Who do you had more disadvantage? At that time it was Pac because he was too small to fight at Welter that was why he was the underdog then, even he was the no1 P4P. Majority of boxing analyst favored De la Hoya to win... Floyd won a controversial decision while Pac had De la Hoya quit on his stool. who then had the better Win?

-Pac TKO Cotto in round 12 while Floyd won against Cotto in a close fight... If the fight was staged in Cotto's backyard Cotto could have gotten a backyard decision.

-Hatton was not the real deal at 147 the way he performed against Collazo yet he gave Floyd a hard fight and it toke 10 rounds to knock him out. Hatton was the Man at 140 as he was the lineal champ yet Pac knocked Hatton out in just 2 rounds.

-Marquez was a natural 130 lbs fighter then but dragged Marquez to 3 weight divisions at Welterweight and he could barely make 142. BTW Regondeux quit on his stool when he jumped two weight class to fight Loma. Jumping weight above your weight class puts a fighter in a very disadvange situation. So can we conclude therefore that Floyd's win against Marquez is a great win?