Sexy Sergio: Manny Pacquiao Is Top 4 or 5 GOAT + Brian Castano: Pacquiao is the GOAT.

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  1. The Real Lance

    The Real Lance Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Dude....he was never the successor. That was just marketing and promoting. I mean, good grief...did y'all just fall for it hook, line and sinker?

    Broner did jack at 147. Yet beating him gave one the short at the WW world champ? it's not hard to see the fallacy in that.
     
  2. Pimp C

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    It's not really silly if a boxer is a draw and popular, it's just the way boxing works. Look at Tank Davis for example he did nothing to get a shot at Barrios at 140 yet could easily get a shot with Taylor the man at 140. Hell Ryan Garcia could get a fight with anyone in the world right now at 140 and147 if he showed interest in doing so. Boxing is a business and draws get fights and if you beat a draw you will get noticed.
     
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  3. derekcantona

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    Whether we agree with it or not, he was an undefeated multi-weight champion who was being talked up in those terms. Marketing and promoting sell fights. You're confusing his actual ability (which degraded over time due to unprofessionalism, mostly) with his perceived ability at the time of the Maidana fight. There was no reason to predict such a decline, it just happens to some boxers because they don't look after themselves or work on their game.
     
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  4. Pimp C

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    Doesn't matter what his ranking was. I'm sure there were guys ranked below him who were far more deserving or guys not even ranked by the WBO who were as well. Don't get mad at me because most sanctioning body rankings don't mean ****. This has nothing to do with PBF, It has to do with you trying to justify this farce. When you're beaten in an argument you always fall back on the education thing, I've seen you do this time and time again to me and others. I must be smart enough because I've owned you in this debate.:risas3:
     
  5. The Real Lance

    The Real Lance Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Owned? All you said was Broner was popular. Pac was the WBO Champ, and faced his top contender. That is what champs are supposed to do if a unification is not there. That is how lesser knowns often get their shot at more popular fighters. now tell me what I just said makes no sense.

    You've always been nothing more than a Mayweather fanboy on this site. Just a casual who stuck around longer than needed.
     
  6. The Real Lance

    The Real Lance Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Ok, that's fair enough. I was big on Broner when he first came out. Even his trash talking was at least funny (Unlike Floyd's cringe attempts to trash talk). But he screwed himself over. Had the talent, not the mental strength.
     
  7. derekcantona

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    Yeah, you could even see his talent on display in the latter stages of the Porter fight when he kicked on, dropped Porter and made him look clumsy but it was far too late.
     
  8. Pimp C

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    Those bogus rankings mean nothing! Horn was a bum period.

    A casual??? LMFAO! I know more boxing than you. You're just a depressed old man angry at the world who likes to argue and talk **** to fans of fighters you don't like. You're nothing but a troll Lance who needs to get back on your meds. i'm worried about you.
     
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  9. The Real Lance

    The Real Lance Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    He frustrated me to the point I just didn't care anymore.
     
  10. The Real Lance

    The Real Lance Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Angry at the world. :lol: oh good lord.... am I the biggest hater in the world too? The worst poster EVER as well?? No Pimp, you don't know more. A 5watt bulb is brighter than you. A smart person doesn't let fans tell them who to hate. And that's what you do.

    Deka is a floyd fan, we're getting along. I get along w/ plenty of Canelo fans. Was never a K Bro fan or Lennox lewis fan, yet I get along great with both sides, who hate each other. Hell...some of your boys accuse me of hating the charlos or ESjr, yet I defend them when idiots go after them.

    There's just a small handful of fans here I don't like. Irrational and unable to have an open mind. That's you. Because you're just a casual fanboy. Go watch Mayweather vs Paul for the 30th time already...
     
  11. Pimp C

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    You are angry Lance @IsaL @drenlou are just a few who would agree with me. You trash fans of fighters you don't like, that's your job here. I never see you break down any fights or even give a prediction. You look or posters to troll and start **** with. You're a Margo fan a POS cheat who had to load his gloves just to be average yet you have the nerve to try and talk **** to me for being a fan of PBF.

    You're also always talking about someone's intelligence but you live in a frozen wasteland, Alaska where education isn't a priority.
     
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  12. derekcantona

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    Pimp's definitely one of the smarter posters here.
     
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  13. The Real Lance

    The Real Lance Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    :lol: Isal and drenlu...with you, three guys that hate me. Guess what brainiac, JM22 hates me too. Excellent company you keep there toots.

    WTF do you think you do here dumb dumb? You argue with everyone (Log off!! :lol: your stupid saying), you hate boxers because fans tell you to.

    Of course you want to believe EVERYONE you argue with is angry. You think like a child. You don't have the brain development or capacity to be genuine.

    Feel free to show me the last time I defended Margarito's wraps. Go search. You won't find that from me, because it's unacceptable. The teams are supposed to know their equipment. And just like when I was a fan of Shane, once it was clear, my support dwindled.

    nice try country mouse...
     
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  14. The Real Lance

    The Real Lance Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    :lol: oh dear... The same guy who hates boxer because of fans. Same guy who says Floyd was SHOT when he fought Pac... yes, he's the ****in Albert Einstein of boxing.

    You know, just because you guys support the same guys doesn't mean you have to kiss up. I love Pac, but a lot of his fans are nuts, and I tell em.
     
  15. derekcantona

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    It's hardly an outrageous opinion. Most people don't seem to realise that Floyd is the older fighter whose style requires lightning reflexes and excellent movement. Floyd definitely didn't have the same reflexes or speed of movement in the ring and his hands were wrecked by this point as everybody knows. Pacquiao was definitely shopworn too, but his major problem is that his power didn't really carry to 147. Mayweather was relying on his ring IQ, timing and impeccable shot selection to get him through fights at this point. He retired from professional boxing at the right time. It's a strong rebuttal to the opinion amongst some boxing fans, those who prefer their boxers to block punches with their faces mostly, that Mayweather waited Pacquiao out, when it would have been better for Mayweather to fight him 5 years or so before that. Even if he had fought him a couple of years earlier he would have had more to use in the ring. It's Arum who held up this fight, and the sh it between him and Mayweather.

    What do you know of this poster's background, intelligence and achievements? I think he expresses himself clearly and makes some interesting points. What's wrong with saying that?
     
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