What if Tyson Fury retires after beating Wilder

None of the clowns from the 20th century could compete with the 5'7 HW bare knuckle brawlers of the 1700's. None.

 

cute. you should go on the road.

 

I think if Fury retires at that point his weight will bulloon like Bowe`s did.

 

This isn't "Highlander" where you get to absorb credit for all the victories and defenses of your opponents when you beat them.

If that were the case, Oliver McCall would get credit for absorbing all of Lennox Lewis' and Larry Holmes' defenses too. Had McCall beaten Orlin Norris, he too would have beaten a world-class cruiserweight.

Fury gets full credit for getting to the top of the mountain twice but getting there is a lot different than staying there when all of the contenders are studying you and training to knock you off the throne when they get their chance.

 

I wouldn't call Parker mediocre. Won his belt off Ruiz and the first boxer to take AJ to 12 rounds. Chisora has a couple of solid wins too, along with some controversial losses. Don't know enough about Rivas to comment.

 

The fact that Wilder's power pretty much makes any of his fights 50/50, no matter who the opponent is. He nearly had Fury out in their first fight, and while he got dominated in the second there's no guarantee he will lose the third. And that's against the number 1 Tyson Fury, so if we're talking lesser fighters it still suggests he's up there.

I'm personally a big fan of Tyson Fury, but I'm not going to let bias cloud the fact that Wilder is still the most dangerous heavyweight in the division with that right hand.

 

McCall landed a punch that he would perhaps land 1-2/10 times against Lewis and he narrowly outpointed Holmes when Holmes was on the wrong side of 45. Overall he had a journeyman's resume.

I agree that staying on top for a long time shows enormous ability (plus GOAT focus, discipline and motivation to go with it) and Wlad doesn't get nearly enough credit in this regard. But winning against 22 contenders in a row of whom the 10 best are Povetkin, Haye, Pulev, Jennings, Chagaev, Ibragimov, Chambers, Thompson, Peter and Byrd doesn't mean that you will have a good chance of beating someone substantially better, as Wlad found out against Fury.

If a SHW can conclusively beat the top few guys, he can almost certainly beat everyone else.

 

I wouldn’t rank him high at all. Though he would come with a fantastic story. It’s not that I don’t rate him. I think he’s fantastic. But we’re talking about a guy that would have defended his title once.

 

Ortiz

 

I'm afraid your fandom smothers your insanity.
0 title defenses
PEDs cheat
Weak resume
Fraudulent champion

 

And the weak fights before that was prep for him not fighting for the last 2 years. A Nandrolone cheat shouldn't need that many tune ups. Also a lineal champion doesn't keep that title if he retires and/or gets caught doing PEDs. Just a thought.
0 title defenses
Nandrolone cheat
No fights in two years while sitting on the belt
Fraudulent champion

 

Win or lose, The Gypsy King has already cemented his legacy as one of the greatest to ever lace 'em up.

The haters were probably predicting Wlad and Wilder to ice that fool easily in three rounds.

 

Ortiz most notable wins
Jennings
Hammer

Chisora notable wins
Takam
Price
Spzilka
And robbed a win against Helenius.

Chisora's resume is the better of the two.