Damn Ugas looked old on the scales.

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  1. titanic

    titanic Boxing Addict Full Member

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    :ARMS1::ARMS1: Carbon copy :clap::clap:
     
  2. lepinthehood

    lepinthehood When I'm drinking you leave me well alone Full Member

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    I think pacman can stop him
     
  3. JOKER

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    Your ho ass ran from my bet.
     
  4. JOKER

    JOKER Froat rike butterfry, sting rike MFER! banned Full Member

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    Pacquiao wasn't sparring Ugas for Spence.

    :lol:
     
  5. IntentionalButt

    IntentionalButt Guy wants to name his çock 'macho' that's ok by me Full Member

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    You're saying very stupid things.

    Ugás vs. Maidana was announced for the Pacquiao vs. Spence undercard in mid-late July, over a month ago, with both fighters presumably heading straight into camp upon finalization. Ugás and Pacquiao have both had full training camps, and both had opponent changes at exactly the same time, causing both to need to pivot their focus in the last week of camp to prep for a new opponent and style. Pacquiao had to alter his preparations just as Ugás did. Ugás isn't any less dissimilar to Spence than Pacquiao is to Maidana. You act like this was some sneaky power play move on Pac's part as A-side, where he somehow had precognition that Spence would withdraw with injury, and thus had an advantaged "one-up" over Ugás, and given your predilection for far-fetched conspiracy theories, you probably do think that.

    Try to stay tethered to reality.

    Poor little Yordenis only had 'a week' of training for Manny? Oh dear heavens... well, guess what? Manny only had a week of training for Yordenis. :deal:
     
  6. panchman69

    panchman69 Well-Known Member Full Member

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    He looks more intimidating with literally no hair on him. I wonder if he shaved off all his pubes too.
     
  7. Impulse_0

    Impulse_0 Active Member Full Member

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    By your logic wouldn’t manny only have a one week camp since he only has one week to prepare himself for Ugas?

    both fighters were going to fight on the same date and their opponents got injured. Your trolling sucks
     
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  8. Anima

    Anima Kinetic Link Full Member

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    Conspiracy theories by idiots. We have a few here.
     
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  9. shadow111

    shadow111 Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Pac is harder to prepare for than Ugas, making the one week camp a harder challenge for Ugas than for Pacquiao. Plus Ugas has a bicep injury.
     
  10. shadow111

    shadow111 Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    What? Where did you come up with that? I'm not blaming Pac or his team for what happened, that's on Spence, but it's not a fight that moves the needle for Pac. It's an easy fight for Pac to win. Maybe a full strength Ugas in a normal camp, Ugas would have a shot. Not like this, not with fighting Pac on short notice with a bicep injury. We all know Pac will win this easily. He's fighting an injured fighter who only had 1 week to prepare for him.
     
  11. IntentionalButt

    IntentionalButt Guy wants to name his çock 'macho' that's ok by me Full Member

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    Ugás had a full camp. Why isn't Pac not having more than a week (to adjust his training for Ugás specifically) relevant, if Ugás having only a week to adjust his for Pac is? This specific match-up is no more short-notice for Ugás than for Pac.
     
  12. shadow111

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    He had a full camp but he didn't have a full camp preparing for Pac. And his camp was inturrupted by his original opponent pulling out, so he had to stop training, then re-adjust his training camp at the last minute for Pac. What's crazy is how 3 fighters were injured in training camp all who were scheduled to compete on the same card. The only conclusion is that there was too much sparring in camp or too hard sparring for all these fighters and they got injured. All these injuries in camp is a bad omen in my view. To put an injured Ugas in with Pacquiao on a week's notice, it's crazy. There's a difference between having a full camp then being told your opponent is pulling out vs having a normal full camp then fighting your opponent. I mean look at Wilder for goodness sake. He was putting in the work in the gym preparing for the Fury Trilogy fight, then Fury got Covid or whateve he got and had to pull out. Well Wilder ended up fighting nobody and having to wait, so all that work in the gym preparing for Fury was a waste to an extent. Now Wilder has to stop training, then re-start training months later. That's not easy for a fighter to do. You train in the gym for a specific opponent, as you train you envision the fight in your mind and how you matchup stylistically against your opponent. All that preparation is out the window when an opponents pulls out like that deep into camp, and with the Ugas injury it gives Pac a huge advantage. I mean we seen fighters taking fights on short notice like with Andy Ruiz AJ and pulling off shock upsets, but that's not gonna happen here. Ugas did not have a good training camp to come in to fight week with a swole bicep and people saying he's looking old at the wiegh-in. It's clear that Ugas didn't have a normal, full, injury-free training camp. Far from it. And he certainly hasn't had the normal amount of time to prepare for Pacquiao.
     
  13. Impulse_0

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    Maybe Manny is more difficult to prepare for because he is a better fighter and has a tough style? According to you we should hold that against him? I don’t get your argument lol.

    If Ugas is injured he shouldn’t fight. If he gets into the ring than he is fair game. Manny is 42 years old, a part-time boxer and been in countless wars. Can one of these young bucks make it into the ring with him?

    btw Ugas only looks old cause he no longer has eyebrows.
     
  14. shadow111

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    When did I say we should hold it against Pac? I'm not like the Canelo haters that try and make arguments against the fighter himself. Pac has no control over what happened, he's just fighting the fighter they put in front of him.
    It's unbelievable isn't it. Spence looked like a total fool talking all that trash in the build-up about how he's gonna dominate Pac-man, not showing Pac-man any respect then pulls out because of an eye injury. Spence is a great talent, but he doesn't have the best reputation when it comes to the car crash and now pulling out of the Pacquiao fight so late into camp and creating this scenario where an injured Ugas is taking his place. I mean it's a Pacquiao fight and he's a legend in the sport, but the whole selling point of Pacquiao continuing the fight was to take on the best and Spence was considered the best. Now him fighting an average fighter who's injured just doesn't garner the same hype or intrigue. Also Pac doesn't have much to gain here, because he had a chance to shock the world by beating Spence. But now if Pac wins or loses, everyone's probably going to say he should retire after this which would mean he may not ever get a chance to fight Spence.
    The fact that he doesn't have eyebrows should be a sign that something's not right with this guy.
     
  15. IntentionalButt

    IntentionalButt Guy wants to name his çock 'macho' that's ok by me Full Member

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    Also true in reverse. Pac had a full camp but didn't have a full camp preparing for Ugás.

    Also true in reverse. Pac's camp was interrupted by his original opponent pulling out, so he had to stop training, then re-adjust his training camp at the last minute for Ugás.

    Okay, yeah, high stakes, hard sparring, I got ya - but if there was that much hard sparring going on in camp, don't you think it might take an especially hard toll on the 42 year old? You don't know what kind of micro-injuries Pac is harboring. FFS, this is a guy that fought Mayweather injured and refused to disclose that publicly until afterward. He isn't going to utter a peep even if he does happen to be in rougher shape than Ugás with the bicep tear.

    A) he is healthy enough and the bicep tear minimal enough that he is medically cleared to fight.
    B) as we've gone over ad nauseum, this isn't on a week's notice. At least not in any imbalanced way that disadvantages him, because his opponent also had only a week to prep specifically for him.
    C) ...omens? :lol: Thought you were going to stay rooted in reality.

    Also true in reverse. Pac is facing that exact situation as well.

    I think you're overstating how much of a fight camp is dedicated to specific opponent prep (usually that just boils down to choice of sparring partners for stylistic looks). Prepping for the nuances of your opponent and mimicking their style is only a small part of the point of sparring, and sparring is but one small element of a full training camp. Most of a camp is getting yourself fight-fit, making weight, and going through all the same drills and repetitions you do in every camp, to build that aerobic and anaerobic capacity, get the rust off your fast- and slow-twitch fibes, and refresh that muscle-memory of fluid movement, punches, and defense. Most of a training camp is universal and transferrable from one opponent to another. There is some importance to knowing who you're fighting and training accordingly, yes, but at the championship level, a world titlist and product of the Cuban amateur system like Ugás is somebody for whom a week ought to be plenty to be able to make those sort of adjustments to game plan.