What if Tyson Fury retires after beating Wilder

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  1. Heavy_Hitter

    Heavy_Hitter Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Fury beat a 40 year old Wlad...
     
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    Kiwi Casual Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Do you expect him to turn back time and fight him earlier? Still a good win considering the shape he came in against AJ.
     
  3. MarkusFlorez99

    MarkusFlorez99 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    No but whats done is done. The Wlad win was very impressive but Wlad was still past it and then his next best win is overrated Wilder and after that it's gatekeeper Chisora. His resume is somewhat thin with one elite win. That kind of resume is on par with Riddicks Bowes.
     
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    Heavy_Hitter Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Yep, Fury needs some good wins. If he could beat AJ, Usyk and some other top 10 fighters he will be top 15-20.
     
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    MarkusFlorez99 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    If he beats Aj, Usyk and some other top fighters that might put him in the top 10 and also makes him a H2H nightmare
     
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    Heavy_Hitter Boxing Addict Full Member

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    The only issue is that he is already 33 and he doesn't have many years left at the top.
     
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    ForemanJab Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Fury only has 1 or 2 good fights left. You can’t abuse your body the way he has and have any longevity on the back end.
     
  8. ashishwarrior

    ashishwarrior I'm vital ! Full Member

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    ortiz beats chisora 10 out of 10 times
     
  9. BubblesUK

    BubblesUK Doesn't buy hypejobs Full Member

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    Not a chance.

    If you're not trolling then you DKSAB. Simple as that.
     
  10. ashishwarrior

    ashishwarrior I'm vital ! Full Member

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    i really do know **** about boxing
    hence your boy fury is a beaten fighter
    and i can assure you ortiz does win 10 out of 10 times
    derrick aint out pointing him and he aint got the power to knock him out
    i dksab but you rank furys two wins as high
    gtfoh
     
  11. Kiwi Casual

    Kiwi Casual Boxing Addict Full Member

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    He was older yes, but still a reigning champ with 4 of the major belts that dominated the division for a decade. No other current heavyweight has done that. On top of that Fury dethroned arguably the hardest hitting heavyweight in recent history (who also was undefeated with a near perfect KO record) after a couple of years off and fighting two bums.

    People go on about AJs resume, but at the end of the day he hasn't achieved what Fury has.
     
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    BubblesUK Doesn't buy hypejobs Full Member

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    I'm seeing little evidence of it...

    I can assure you Chisora does have a decent chance of knocking out Ortiz, and his pressure style is something that Ortiz would find difficult to deal with. Watch some of Ortiz fights back and you'll see glimpses of this, when he's allowed to set the pace he looks good but when someone takes the aggression to him he's not nearly as comfortable - then ratchet up the competition a level from anyone Ortiz has ever beaten and you'll see where I'm coming from.

    If Chisora could be competitive with a far more skilled boxer in Usyk, then the idea that he "ain't outpointing" a gatekeeper level fighter Ortiz is rather OTT.

    I would think Chisora would win 6/10, maybe 7/10 against Ortiz.


    And Fury is not "my boy" - he's probably the best there is at the moment, but that's not saying a huge amount.
     
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  13. hobby rider

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    If Dillon’s Whyte was still fighting the likes of Jason gavern 30odd fights into his career then he could also be labelled as the “hardest hitting heavyweight in history” etc.

    It’s easy to have a good KO record when you’re defending your title against the likes of Arthur Szpillka and Gerald Washington.
     
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    Chisora is a limited plodder but there’s no way Ortiz beats him 10/10 times.

    No chance.
     
  15. hobby rider

    hobby rider Well-Known Member Full Member

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    No you’re wrong Wilder is an all time great victory. Who else but Fury would be able to manage to beat the man who slayed the feared Artur Szpillka.
     
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