Who won. Ugas or Pacquiao

Discussion in 'World Boxing Forum' started by MarkusFlorez99, Aug 21, 2021.


Who won the fight

Poll closed Aug 21, 2022.
  1. Pacquiao

    9.4%
  2. Ugas

    81.2%
  3. Draw

    9.4%
  1. African Cobra

    African Cobra The Right Honourable Lord President of the Council banned Full Member

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    How did you score it?
     
  2. shadow111

    shadow111 Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Pacquiao has always been a class act. Respectful in victory, humble in defeat. An honorable legend.
     
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  3. Richard M Murrieta

    Richard M Murrieta Now Deceased 2/4/25 Full Member

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    Manny is a good sport to admit the loss, and offered congratulations to Ugas, classy individual.
     
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  4. African Cobra

    African Cobra The Right Honourable Lord President of the Council banned Full Member

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    Very much so except for when Floyd schooled him:


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  5. African Cobra

    African Cobra The Right Honourable Lord President of the Council banned Full Member

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    Yes.
     
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  6. Wildcat

    Wildcat Ted Grant banned Full Member

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    Ugas won 8-4. Stop looking for robberies in every fight.
     
  7. shadow111

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    "I think I won the fight!"
     
  8. African Cobra

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    Yep remember it well lol.
     
  9. BubblesUK

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    You don't "know" it but you can be pretty damn sure that Pac that far declined isn't going to be able to mix it with the very best.

    If you really think that version of Pac would've beaten Spence then I don't really know what to say to you - way too far off the pace.
    At his best, he'd have beaten Spence, but he's not remotely close to that now.

    If that had been an uninjured Spence out there then best case for Pac is about 10-2 loss, but if we're honest he'd be lucky to see the end.
     
  10. lufcrazy

    lufcrazy requiescat in pace Full Member

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    Ugas won, and I think almost everyone was rooting for Pacquiao in this fight which strengthens the claim that the decision was just.
     
  11. IntentionalButt

    IntentionalButt Guy wants to name his çock 'macho' that's ok by me

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    You'd have to either be a Cuban defector yourself (in that unique crosshair of being culturally proud of your tribemate but also being anti-nationalist regime to not consider him a traitor) or just a longtime hardcore Pacquiao hater to have been rooting for Ugás. So like ~2% of boxing fans at this point, since the former are not a statistically meaningful group and the latter have mostly either drifted away from the sport or had their passions cooled since the days of the big Mayweather rivalry.
     
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  12. Glass City Cobra

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    Pretty clear decision. The staggering difference in connect percentage tells the whole story of the fight. Pac threw a lot but wasn't very effective or landing much. Even in the early rounds when he was blitzing Ugas, those flashy 3-4 punch combos were mostly missing or being blocked and he only landed maybe one clean shot. Pac knew this and was trying to win rounds on aggression and work rate, but the numbers don't lie.

    Ugas from the very first round was bothering Pac with his long jab. Then he picked up the pace and gained more and more confidence from round 5 onwards while Pac started slowing down and becoming more tired. Ugas right to the body and Cuban right hook landed over and over again and Pac never adjusted, blocked, or moved his head. Gone were the in and out movement and tricky angles Pac used on previous opponents, he just kept trying bum rush and overwhelm a taller rangier skilled opponent and that rarely works unless you have an overwhelming advantage in power and boxing ability which wasn't the case here. Everyone underestimated Ugas' technique and ability to remain calm under pressure. Had he panicked and opened up (which is what Pac wanted), he would have abandoned the tactics that got him so much success and Pac would easily outland him.

    Overall it was still a fairly close and entertaining fight, but Pac is just too small and old for such a tall cagey opponent with good accuracy. Perhaps if Pac wasn't so aggressive and used more head movement and lateral movement he could have edged it, but it most definitely wasn't some sort of robbery.
     
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  13. Perkin Warbeck

    Perkin Warbeck Boxing aficionado Full Member

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    Ugas won, close but clear, 115-113.

    Pacquiao is age 42 and it's time to retire.
     
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  14. FrankinDallas

    FrankinDallas FRANKINAUSTIN

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    Always a class act. Retire now, Manny.
     
  15. African Cobra

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    He needs to and I hope he does as I don’t what someone to knock him out cold like Marquez did.