What if Tyson Fury retires after beating Wilder

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  1. BubblesUK

    BubblesUK Doesn't buy hypejobs Full Member

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    And that's before you consider that Wilder struggled to find Szpilka's glassier than glass chin...
     
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  2. BubblesUK

    BubblesUK Doesn't buy hypejobs Full Member

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    Chisora is definitely limited, but he's also far more proven than Ortiz and brings a style I'm convinced Ortiz would find very uncomfortable.

    If Chisora could make life difficult for a fighter like Usyk (who is comfortably more skilled than Ortiz and Chisora combined) then Ortiz would have a very tough nights work - especially as he doesn't see to like having the pace dictated to him.

    I'd have it 50/50 at absolute worst for Chisora, YMMV.
     
  3. African Cobra

    African Cobra The Right Honourable Lord President of the Council Full Member

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    He would be a ***** who ducked the ass kicking AJ was going to give him.
     
  4. MarkusFlorez99

    MarkusFlorez99 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Yeah maybe if Wilder didn't duck Aj then Fury wouldn't have been the one to do it, besides who has Wilder beaten ? Undefeated doesn't mean a damn thing if you're beating cans. Fury's win over Klitschko is more impressive than AJ's resume but thats it.

    Let me break it down for you

    Povetkin >> Wilder
    Pulev > Chisora
    Whyte >= Chisora

    AJ's resume is better
     
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  5. Kiwi Casual

    Kiwi Casual Boxing Addict Full Member

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    If it's so easy you go do it. I'm not saying he's fought the best of the best all of his career, but to try and deny his power is just plain ignorant.
     
  6. Kiwi Casual

    Kiwi Casual Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Old Povetkin isn't better than Wilder, nor is old Pulev better than Chisora. Whyte is only marginally better than Chisora based on the KO we saw.

    AJ quit against Ruiz after a shot to the temple. You think AJ remains standing after Wilder hits him? AJ isn't Fury who knows how to ride shots, recovers and adapts quickly without gassing after 6 rounds.

    Styles make fights. AJ simply is incapable of avoiding Wilders right hand for 12 rounds. He's not fighting a short, slow on foot Ruiz at range with Wilder.
     
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  7. Kiwi Casual

    Kiwi Casual Boxing Addict Full Member

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    He still knocked him out though, and he's cracked harder chins.
     
  8. MarkusFlorez99

    MarkusFlorez99 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    How is old Povetkin not better than Wilder. This is the ridiculous logic i laugh at, because when you look at resume, old Povetkin has a better resume Wilder. Wilder's only notable win is Ortiz, Even Wild swinging barbaric Whyte has a better resume than Ortiz and arguably on the same level as Wilder and Povetkin iced him in 5 rounds. Wilder's resume is garbage.

    So because Ruiz beat Aj that means Wilder does too ? Thats like saying because Ruiz beat Aj that means Klitschko and Povetkin would also KO Aj. Oh wait. Besides Ruiz and Wilder are not comparable. Totally different styles and Ruiz caught Aj in an exchange after immediately getting up from a knockdown and eating a big right hand. Didnt Wilder go life and death with Journeymen Molina ? If thats the case then how would he beat Aj, because Molina rocked Wilder with a counter left hook which is Joshua's forte. Mediocre Ortiz almost TKO'd Wilder and got stopped by the bell in the first fight. You see what i mean ? Aj wouldn't need to avade Wilders right hand for 12 rounds, he could just knock him out inside 6 and he has the power to do it.

    Wilder is a hypejob. Go ahead. List me his 4 best wins.
     
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  9. kriszhao

    kriszhao Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Nah man Fury has a poor resume and old Klitschko and a one trick bum in WIlder.
     
  10. Wildcat

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    Still second best resume among current HWs.
     
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  11. MarkusFlorez99

    MarkusFlorez99 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    The Klitschko win is impressive and the Wilder win is ok in the grant scheme of things but besides that he just has gatekeeper Chisora. Definitely not an ATG resume is you ask me. It's Riddick Bowe tier, actually imo Bowe has a better resume and Bowe flattened Bert Cooper in 2 rounds who was the gatekeeper back in the 90s
     
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  12. Kiwi Casual

    Kiwi Casual Boxing Addict Full Member

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    I base it on their recent activity. Resume has nothing to do with how a fighter CURRENTLY performs against another. Though I get the feeling you're deliberately missing the point.
     
  13. MarkusFlorez99

    MarkusFlorez99 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Fury has been inactive for almost 2 years. But like i said if Wilder didn't duck Aj then Aj probably would have beaten him first. Looking at their past few wins Fury has the edge but he's also cherrypicked bums like Wallin and Schwartz. Aj will be fighting Usyk. The same Usyk that is undisputed at cruiserweight and delt with Chisora far easier than Parker and Whyte.
     
  14. ashishwarrior

    ashishwarrior I'm vital ! Full Member

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    didnt get past the first three sentences
    you sir are full of it
    chisora is koing ortiz
    yeah ok
    gtfoh ydksab
     
  15. ashishwarrior

    ashishwarrior I'm vital ! Full Member

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    i stand by that statement
    chisora is highbend euro level and thats valuing him as a gatekeeper nothing more