Manny's ATG Ranking?

The Ring Magazine's Annual Ratings: 2002
Pound For Pound

1. Bernard Hopkins
2. Roy Jones Jr.
3. Marco Antonio Barrera
4. Vernon Forrest
5. Oscar De La Hoya
6. Kostya Tszyu
7. Erik Morales
8. Floyd Mayweather Jr.
9. Lennox Lewis
10. Shane Mosley

2003 P4P rankings

1. Roy Jones Jr.
2. Bernard Hopkins
3. Shane Mosley
4. Oscar De La Hoya
5. Floyd Mayweather Jr.
6. Manny Pacquiao
7. Kostya Tszyu
8. Erik Morales
9. James Toney
10. Antonio Tarver

Ring Magazine 2004 rankings
Pound For Pound

1. Bernard Hopkins
2. Floyd Mayweather Jr.
3. Kostya Tszyu
4. Ronald (Winky) Wright
5. Manny Pacquiao
6. Juan Manuel Marquez
7. Marco Antonio Barrera
8. Erik Morales
9. Glen Johnson
10. Antonio Tarver

 

So MAB was ONLY #3 P4P when he faces Pac... what a second rate has-been he must've been....

 

Duran quit bc he was having an off night and thought a rematch was guaranteed. Leonard was a fake ***** per usual and didn’t grant it.

 

He stated that he was ranked 1st lance that's and not even 2nd ffs. Still good ranking but he was not accurate with his post. Was he highly ranked yes but he wasn't the best.

 

I literally just saw that, The Ring had him rated 3rd behind Hopkins & Jones, HBO had him their #1 fighter.

 

LMFAO!!! Duran fans are like Pac fans full of excuses at the end of the day.

 

He was a top ranked fighter no doubt which is why I said it was his best win.

 

You're wrong here.

MAB was my favorite fighter at the time and neither I nor anyone I knew thought he was the PFP #1 guy.

 

Dude..... it that really a big deal to make?

"No!!! He was not P4P #1, he was P4P #3!!"

 

That's fine, I nor anyone I knew thought Shane Mosley was #1 in 2000 either. Same as right now, there are those that believe Crawford is #1, some feel Inoue is, and others who think it's Canelo. I swear I'm not making this up, I remember Barrera being talked about as #1 during his fights.

 

Yea know what? I already made a poll what was the best win of the 21st Century and Pacquiao TKO Barrera won the poll and won wide....

 

Tarver's win over RJJ was better RJJ was basically undefeated/DQ loss and was p4p #1 and got KTFO. MAB had been beaten before multiple times before Pac beat him your poll is further proof that polls can't be taken seriously around here and are more about popularity than true merit. Hell I could say Hopkins win over Tito than was better and others as well.

 

Because @Pimp C was scared to do it:

Pacquiao:
Reigning champions beaten: 8
Sasakul
Ledwaba
Barrera (lineal)
David Diaz
Hatton (lineal)
Cotto
Bradley
Thurman
*not counting Margarito or Mattyhsee

Pfp top ten fighters beaten: 8
Barrera I
Barrera II
Marquez II
Hatton (number 10 in 2008 Ring annual)
Cotto
Marquez III
Bradley II
Bradley III

Ring ranked top ten beaten: 17-19
Sasakul
Ledwaba
Barrera I
Morales II
Morales IiI
Barrera II
Marquez II
Diaz
De La Hoya (?)
Hatton
Cotto
Clottey
Mosley
Marquez III
Bradley II
Algieri @140
Vargas
Matthysse
Thurman

Loses and draws between age 20 and 36
1. Morales (avenged)
2. Marquez (draw, avenged)
3. Marquez
4. Bradley (disputed, avenged)
5. Mayweather

Leonard:
Reigning champions beaten: 5
Benitez
Duran
Kalule
Hearns
Hagler
*Lalonde doesn't count

Pfp fighters beaten: 4, not counting Kalule

Ring ranked fighters beaten: 8-9
Ranzany
Green
Benitez
Duran II
Kalule
Hearns
Hagler
Lalonde @175
Duran III

Loses and draws, age 20-36: 3
1. Duran (avenged)
2. Hearns (draw, consensus loss)
3. Norris

Pacquiao more or less doubles Leonard in each category.

 

It's not about quantity it's about quality. When are you going to realize this? Srl has one if the best resumes in boxing history so spare me with empty calories everyone knows how great Duran hearns Hagler and benitez were. We don't know how great many of those guys you threw up on pacs side were because most weren't great. Not only that when pac beat them, alot of them were faded or sho and he has bad loses something srl doesn't have. You can try to spin and put up empty calorie numbers but at the end of the day with srl you don't have to do that because the names speak for themselves. Srl>pac period end of discussion.

 

No, that's according to you.

Quality+quantity can, in fact, be interpreted as better than half of that with a handful of standout wins.