What if Tyson Fury retires after beating Wilder

obviously as chis was in his 30 oddth fight whilst ortiz was on his thirteenth
nice try though
whos been ranked higher for longer

 

Wilders own manager even said he’s not ready for a unification despite him being WBC champion. They were happy to proclaim him as a world champion yet publicly afraid to let him fight people. Embarrassing.

 

you said always didn't you...

 

Wrong father time is undefeated if you still think Wlad was the same fighter at 40 as he was at 32 then you know **** about boxing.

 

Father time is undefeated but it's kinder to super-heavyweights and kindest to fighters with disciplined lifestyles and effective defences, which Wlad exemplified. At 32 Wlad was unable to pull the trigger against a small and light punching Eddie Chambers despite his trainer screaming at him to do so all fight, Wlad must have been shot then too. You'd have thought that the natural middleweight Bernard Hopkins would have been shot at 49 instead of a world champion and although he's an extreme example, sports science has come a long way. No one believed that Wlad was shot at the time and the AJ fight (under far more adverse conditions) further confirmed that he had a huge amount left in the tank when he fought Fury.

 

every time
thrice on sunday
the day of rest
and am talking any way ortiz wants

 

He knocked out eddie with one shot lol. and everyone thought Wlad was shot by the time of the Joshua fight at 41 no one is the same or close to prime in their 40's.. Do you you even read what you wrote FFS.

 

Alright stupid you said always I produced an example where Chisora was higher ranged then Ortiz ad this is the best you can come up with lol.

 

I'm loving the spin.

A big part of Ortiz's mystique was he was an unbeaten Cuban. The trouble with Ortiz's resume is he loves some sloppy seconds. He has literally never taken an opponents 0.

Let's get some context of when he is beating these guys "better than" his peers:
Jennings, was coming off his first loss (handed to him by Klitschko) - his signature win
Allen, was coming off his first loss (handed to him by Whyte)
Cojanu, was coming off a loss (handed to him by Parker)
Thompson, was coming off a loss (handed to him by Malik Scott). Thompson was 45 and retired after the Ortiz fight.

So then, we have two names he beat who weren't coming off a loss:
He got a UD against Malik Scott beating him up along the way (though by your own criteria, Chisora managed to stop Malik and take his 0)
He got a UD against Hammer, which many regarded as a laboured performance.

He has fought two guys with their 0 intact:
An overturned KO of Lateef Kayode because Ortiz popped dirty.
Two stoppage losses to Deontay Wilder.

Personally I rate his win over Jennings. The manner of stoppage was impressive. But we should remember, Jennings was coming off a losing effort to Klitschko, and it's easier to stop a guy whose goals isn't solely to see the final bell. Ortiz himself found that out in his UD win over Malik Scott. The other thing about Jennings, is that he has never beaten a fighter ranked in the top 20 himself.
Jennings (Ortiz's signature win) is the perfect top 20 gate keeper.

So only by spinning his record hard can you come out with "Ortiz is clearly better than Parker and Whyte". But when you ask, who has he actually beaten to warrant his continued high ranking, things fall apart a little, especially when compared to Parker and Whyte. Because as other's have noted, Ortiz's wins are more comparable to Chisora's.

 

Whether he retires after victory or defeat, he's an insanely rich mother****er.

 

30 odd fights to 13
hes better at that time been ranked higher
show me del boy sitting in the top 5 for any period
you cant can you
facts lol

 

To be fair now you're just shifting the goal posts. Chisora sparks out Ortiz any time.

 

yeah ok
how have i moved the goal posts
he said chis was ranked higher than ortiz when he faced vitali
that was chises 30 odd fight while ortiz was on 13
explain how a fighter with 13vfights could be ranked higher than a fighter with 30 odd fights
this logic should be fun
feel free

 

Easy enough.

Pretty sure vasiliy lomachenko was ranked higher than other fighters after 13 fights.

 

he was i will give you uysk to
name me another 5 then
i will wait

i like how your looking to the elites
thats called reaching
just a little higher