Whatever you think of Marciano's competition, they were probably stronger than any of Morrison's opponents that he actually beat. Morrison might have been the biggest hitter that Marciano would have faced, but even so, I will take the man who was never stopped, over the man who was stopped by Michael Bentt. That strikes me as being a bit of a no brainer. Morrison would be the bigger man, but he was not really that big, or even that good by the standards of his era. The guy had the same height and reach as a decrepit Louis, and a few pounds in weight on him. That and a glass jaw is probably not going to cut it against Marciano. As for skill, you could make a case for most of the guys that Marciano beat being more skilled than him. Jersey Joe Walcott was far more skilled than either of them, but that didn't get him the win.
Morrison beat Foreman. I'd put my money on early 90s Foreman to beat anyone Marciano faced. A fight where he was stunned by a big punch he did not see (followed by countless others) does not prove anything. Bentt might not have been much of a boxer, but he still was faster and with a better reach than Marciano. By the standards of his era no, but by the standards of Marciano's era yes. Morrison does not have a glass jaw. He lost to very skilled big HW's like Mercer and Lewis, who could both hit very hard. And even when Bent KO'd him, he caught him with a shot that Tommy did not see, and then added a lot of clean punches on top of that. It's not like he KO'd him with 1 shot or something. No, you couldn't. You can only make a decent case for Jersey Joe Walcott and Joe Louis (who was flat footed). JJW did not have great physical qualities to go along with his skillset. He wasn't big, strong and a tremendous puncher like Morrison.
In what might be Marciano's worst filmed performance of his prime, he returned from one of the longer lay offs of his career...was supposedly ill and still won by TKO and ended the career of a seasoned contender and titlist with a 16 lb weight advantage. In what might be Tommy Morrison's worst filmed performance of his prime. He was stopped in one round by Michael Bentt...he weighed the same as The Duke, had never been ranked in his 10-1 Pro Career. Costing Tommy a title shot against Lennox Lewis. This still does not look good for Morrison.
Well I wouldn't. Bottom line, he is nobody without beating Morrison. He would be big by the standards of Marciano's era but not enormous. apart from that he would still have glass jaw, and he would still gas easily, and these attributes would be capitalized on by people other than Marciano. I think at best we would have to say that his chin was not very good, and neither was his gas tank. this is a very beatable fighter. Are you saying that Marciano was more skilled than Ezzard Charles, Roland LaStarza and Archie Moor, but somehow not more skilled than Tommy Morrison? That seems to be what you are arguing. Don't you get it? Morrison was big (not all that big), strong, and a tremendous puncher, but he wasn't really very much else.
"Lost to Very Skilled Big Heavyweights like Mercer and Lewis" Lol I don't think Mercer is as big as you think. Mercer 6'1" 225 lbs 77" Morrison 6'2" 222-227 lbs 76" Bent 6'3" 225 lbs 79" Lewis 6'5" 241 lbs 84" I would say Morrison lost to two men of similar size to himself and one larger man. Which doesn't add up to jack, he didn't have any unique vulnerability to "Very Large Skilled Heavyweights." He was blown out by a nobody his size, a shorter contender who simply bombed him out in a corner, and an all time Great in a one sided beating. It's not so much who he lost to but who he beat, which wasn't much, one good workman win over a man 20 years his senior. His next best wins are a motley group of has been Tyson scalps and Joe Hipp. Morrison isn't a riddle that you and your genius alone has decrypted. This is a dude who was barely a bottom top 10 consideration when active. A bust.
Morrison could outbox Marciano no question and he could hurt Rock. However they are worlds apart in toughness and stamina. Rocky takes Morrison's best shots for a few rounds and takes him out. Likely this is shorter than the Mercer fight cuz Mercer just let him self get beat up. Marciano would trade a lot more and Morrison would be finished quicker. 3 or 4 rounds.
Marciano was very heterochromic and Morrison was very heterodoxic. This means that there is a way in which one loses out and the other one doesn't win at all.
Nope. Lionel Butler, Phil Jackson, Alex Garcia, Bruce Seldon..all these guys rated at the bottom during Morrison's active years are not superior to Marciano. I'm adding you to the block list. I wish others would do the same. Quality trolling used to at least have a logical point behind it. Guys, stop feeding this idiot after midnight. You're making a Gremlin from a tiny sack of crap.
Two mythically overrated guys but one of them was def the best hw of his era one.... was not Marciano
You certainly can’t count out a guy that can punch like Morrison, but it’s debatable if Morrison would be the biggest puncher Marciano ever faced, since Walcott, Layne, and Bill Wilson (around Morrison’s size) were all good punchers as well. That said stylewise I see Morrison having a very hard time with Marciano, since Morrison didn’t excell at in fighting and for his power to matter he’s going to need to get some space, but Marciano stuck to bigger fighters like glue purposely to neutralize their reach and punch effectiveness. Not to mention Morrison was very vulnerable to uppercuts. Morrison’s best bet against Marciano would be to hit and run like he did against Foreman in hopes of getting a decision, since coming right at Marciano and trying to force a knockout would end badly like it did against Mercer, but if the fight takes place in the tiny ring Cockell and Marciano fought in Morrison’s chances would be pretty slim.
That's cause Morrison fought in a far far tougher era, the best era of HWs. Marciano wouldn't even be a contender in that era.
Only cuz of weight though. Several of the 90s fighters were not that skilled. Mercer being a good example of that.
I never said all the 90s guys were skilled, but overall the 90s guys were far better than the 50s guys
