OK I'll try, though it is never possible, I don't care who you are, hardcore fan or historian, it is damn near impossible for so many reasons, namely the Partisanship, Corruption and Ownership in Boxing. Which of course has given us an Inaccurate True Boxing History. I'll give it a go.
Ok no longer grouped by weight, here are the Placements as I see it of the fighters I originally listed. None of them are based on achievements, they are ordered in, as who I believe were the overall better Boxers & Fighters than the men below them. 1 Joe Louis 2 Jersey Joe Walcott 3 Ezzard Charles 4 Marvin Hagler 5 JCC 6 Roberto Duran 7 Tony Canzoneri 8 James J Jefferies - Best of the Early HWs 9 Jimmy Wilde 10 Tommy Hearns 11 Jock McAvoy 12 Marcel Cerdan 13 John Henry Lewis 14 Hector Camacho 15 Fred Henneberry 16 Bert Gilroy 17 Tony Zale 18 Dave Sands 19 Michael Carbajal 20 Robert Villemain (WW cum MW) 21 Ernie Roderick 22 Fritzie Zivic 23 Ken Norton 24 Eric Boon 25 George Chuvalo 26 Harold Johnson 27 Zora Foley 28 Jeremy Williams 29 Eddie Machen 30 Vic Folley 31 Jim Brady (Scotland) 32 Jake Kilrain (Scotland) 33 Ginger Sadd (Boxing Technician, not a KO puncher) 34 Jack Dillion (ultimate tough guys) 35 Greg Haugan
* = logged in the spreadsheet *1. salsanchezfan #7 *2. McGrain #8 *3. lookatcurryman #9 *4. TipNom #10 *5. Quick Cash #13 *6. CharlieFirpo85 #14 *7. Ioakeim Tzortzakis #15 *8. George Crowcroft #16 *9. The Fighting Yoda #17 10. TheMikeLake #20 (WIP) *11. lufcrazy #22 *12. Seamus #25 13. Saintpat #27 14. HDmexiqtioner #34 15. William Walker #37 16. sweetsci #44 17. ChrisJS #50 18. Gudetama #53 19. Young Terror #54 20. Noel857 #56 21. Jel #57 (WIP) 22. Sweetfiend #58 23. rapscalion #59 24. BitPlayerVesti #61 25. theanatolian #74 26. Philly161 #75 27. cuchulain #76 29. Colonel Sanders #83 (WIP) 30. Kamikaze #85 31. robert ungurean #87 32. Tomatron #88 33. Hearns.right.hand #90 34. Rubber Glove Sandwich #91 (WIP) 35. Fogger #92 36. Minotauro #94 37. sasto #95 38. Sooncreate3 #98 39. Gazelle Punch #100 40. scartissue #104 41. PhillyPhan69 #105 42. JunlongXiFan #110 43. NoNeck #111 44. Jpreisser #112 45. White Bomber #119 46. thistle #125
Hey everyone! I hate to do this, but there is a strong chance I'm going to need to push this back 5-6 weeks. I'll make a final decision tomorrow, but I do not think I'm going to have time to adequately handle this until early October, in which case I will extend the deadline accordingly. I'll make an official announcement here sometime tomorrow, one way or another.
1. James Toney 2. Joe Gans 3. Jose Napoles 4. Floyd Mayweather Jr 5. Michael Watson 6. Jersey Joe Walcott 7. Joe Louis 8. Wilfredo Gomez 9. Marvin Hagler 10. Charley Burley 11. Chris Eubank Sr 12. Riddick Bowe 13. Mike Tyson 14. Carlos Monzon 15. Meldrick Taylor 16. Mark Johnson 17. Michael Spinks 18. Gerald McClellan 19. Shane Mosley 20. Floyd Patterson 21. Ken Buchanan 22. Kid Chocolate 23. Roy Jones Jr 24. Archie Moore 25. Alexis Arguello 26. Tony Canzoneri 27. Jake LaMotta 28. Larry Holmes 29. Ray Robinson 30. Evander Holyfield 31. Winky Wright 32. Sumbu Kalambay 33. Miguel Canto 34. Matthew Saad Muhammad 35. Iran Barkley
Hey, just a heads up you had one duplicate name in there. Please fix it whenever you get a free chance. No rush, as I'm almost certain I'm going to need to prolong the deadline.
Thanks @Rumsfeld and many thanks to you for taking this and your other projects on. I look forward to the final product whenever you’re able to complete it. We all understand life gets in the way. I have fixed this on the original ballot — actually kind of glad on it because I was having regrets about Danny Lopez not being on it but didn’t want to change it this late in the game in case you’d already begun your tally. Now he’s in there and I looked over the list and wouldn’t change a thing. (Unless you find another duplicate that I missed, haha). Again, just want to let you know that I really appreciate your contributions here. If we’re ever in the same time and space please allow me to buy you a beverage so we can sit and talk boxing til last call.
Thank you for your super timely response. Yeah, these things happen on longer lists. I myself have made this mistake while compiling Top 10 lists in the past. Unfortunately, at quick glance, it's tricky to identify these (so I'm hoping everyone I haven't already logged can double check theirs before I get to it). But I do have a system that I strictly adhere to that helps catch these things, but unfortunately I don't usually catch them until I enter them into the spreadsheet. I'm almost certainly going to need to push this back. I was probably a little ambitious with trying to squeeze this in between the Pac fight and my September obligations, and of course, the unexpected in life sometimes gets in the way. But I should have plenty of time to bang through this in early/mid October with the due diligence it deserves. So I will make an official announcement, and meantime I will continue the data collection little-by-little as I can. I am super fired-up to see the final tallies here. Although, since I'm almost certainly pushing things back, I'll probably tabulate the "Sister Survey" in the General before this one. And sure thing on the beverage and boxing talk.
That’s the great thing about history, Rummy: it will be just as fresh and welcome in October (or later) as in August.
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