Clen fan most likely still is crying. I love clenbuterol and only natural juice and only natural beef and pig meat + horsemeat with natural juice in home town from heaven.
For ****'s sake.... THOSE are the only reasons??? Sounds like you get too caught up on fan opinions and allow it to bitter your coffee. But the truth is, you are just projecting.
Id have to go back and watch it. I remember canelo being outboxed inside and out and gassing. Believe he was just laying on the ropes toward the end of the fight. I watched that fight with a mexican family of fighters. I bet 6 brothers and the dad. I didnt end up paying a dime. They all said canelo lost the fight. Whatever though. Everybody knows about robberies and that the house fighter wins or gets a draw unless hes knocked out. Especially when the house fighter generates the kind of money canelo does. What are the odds of going undefeated in that many contraversial decisions?
So canelo went 5-0 in contraversial decision. Not suprising to anybody whos been involved in the sport 4 decades.
It's called breaking down what happened in a round and making astute observations that casuals like yourself fail to recognize when left to your own devices. You don't have the cojones to go through round 4 of the first fight punch for punch, you'll probably end up running away mid-way through the round like you did last time. When a fighter displays high level talent in a round, he should be rewarded accordingly. What I brought up with 32 seconds left in Round 4 is undeniable. Canelo landed hard flush shots throughout that round, GGG on the other hand not so much. Canelo was making GGG whiff wildly, and you know I'll back all that up with timestamps. If you want to make yourself useful, check out Post #49 and see if any of that strikes a chord.
Some canelo fans say it was a draw. Same fans that say all lara did was run and land a jab. What did canelo do vs ggg in the first fight?
Even Canelo accepts he lost to Mayweather. In the first fight Canelo in my opinion outboxed Lil G. Lara was a close fight but I feel Canelo won.
Canelo also felt he lost the lara fight at the bell. Body language and the look on his face tell no lies my friend. Canelo has 1 loss because he generates so much money. If canelo wasnt the biggest draw, hed have a minimum of 3 losses prob more. FACTS!!!!!
You're the only person who believes this shite you talk. Sad really, in fact it's quite concerning. No one is going to debate any rounds with you because you spin everything and can't concede when you're objectively wrong. It's only forum, it is okay to be wrong, no one's going to care
nah that’s about the only reasons Lara landed the lower output ever in his career and has never fought as negatively before or after running isn’t boxing.. and GGG lost Canelo was up 3-1 in an instant landing ever punch in the book and won all the championship rounds. GGG has the most irrational fans since prime manny Pacquiao and Mayweather has more haters than any fighter in history. If you want to actually breakdown fights we can but facts is facts. Anybody Mayweather has fought excuses fly and when GGG name is brought up again excuses fly
I could say the same thing about you, that you weren't conceding anything really even when presented with the objective reality. Remember when you argued the case for GGG winning round 5 in the rematch, though I didn't agree, upon further inspection I recognized that it was close and I concluded that it was reasonable for you to score the Round for GGG. So I've shown a willingness to compromise and meet you halfway where warranted. Whenever there was an opportunity for a stalemate, I took it rather than push my view of a situation, in an effort to be as fair as possible. Like I pointed out how many bad angles there were when we went through Round 11 of the rematch. I think I did well to establish at the very least how debatable these rounds were and I tried to have an honest discussion about what was landed in the round. I mean, it's one thing to argue that either fighter edged a couple of swing rounds and deserved the decision. It's another thing to act like either fighter won either fight so clearly, and make it seem like rounds weren't even close. When you come at it from a standpoint of it being some kind of a GGG domination, it's hard to take you seriously. The only way to go into any of these round debates are to recognize that a round was close, and be open-minded enough to understand where someone else is coming from. You have never really shown a willingness to do that, so it's hard to take you seriously with that kind of a mindset.
No real boxing fan should be afraid of a genuine debate about who won a round. For anyone to spazz out and go into histrionics about it is telling. Canelo is vastly underrated as far as how good he is in the ring. Much of this forum believes he gets decisions simply because he's the cash cow. If that isn't total delusion I don't know what is. Fans by and large need to pay more attention to what occurs in the ring instead of making it about BS that has nothing to do with what happenes in the ring. I point out specific observations, key parts of rounds and I get attacked for it, like how I dare I discuss what happened in a round. This is how thick the GGG fanaticism is. If GGG fans are afraid of talking about what happened in a round, then what does that tell you? If anyone is threatened over my posts pointing out what Canelo did to GGG, I think you need to reevaluate what your motive is. It would be far better and more productive to counter that with relevant moments from GGG that suggest he should win the round. But I rarely get anything like that, and the reason for that is because it's not easy to find those moments from GGG. There should never be a point where discussing a round and going into details about what happened in a round is frowned upon. That should literally be the primary objective of a boxing forum, to discuss and debate the scoring of matches.
I'll reply now Shadow. The biggest problem you have, essentially, is not remembering this is a subjective sport. If it was objective, every one would have the same opinion and thought process and by extension the same conclusions. In my opinion, its not reasonable scoring this fight for Canelo. There's never been an occasion when I've watched this fight and had him the Victor. I've watched this fight a good few times, and I wanted Canelo to win it, as the smaller man and underdog. Now whilst i was surprised at the lack of body work and in figting by G, I was very impressed with his jab, ring generalship and control of range. In all my viewings I've never once scored it for Canelo. Do I think it's a robbery, not really, I'm sure those who scored it a draw had their reasons. However do I think the result was just, absolutely not. For me, watching the 12 rounds, it's clear that Golovkin was the winner. If you disagree, fine. I disagree with a lot of people on a lot of Canelo fights. What I will say is this, the way Canelo fought the championship rounds was commendable and without that showing we wouldn't even be debating this fight today.