If Oleksandr Usyk Convincingly Beats Anthony Joshua...

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  1. Quina74

    Quina74 Boxing Addict Full Member

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    He's already number 1 you helmets...

    He's the only one who became undisputed at his own weight (Crawford weight bullying at 140lbs doesn't count) fighting away from home. "Boxers" like Canelo, Spence are too scared to box away from home advantage.

    Why Canelo or anyone else is ranked above Usyk is beyond me.. For starters Canelo isn't undisputed. Secondly, he's chosen a **** poor division to attempt too
    To do so (won belts off come to lose short camp ryder robbery Smith and blown up 160lber BJS who looked trash in his last three fights). Thirdly there's so much controversial bs with him he shouldnt even be in the P4P rankings. At least have GGG above him who beat him 8-4/9-3 in both fights lmao
     
  2. senpai

    senpai Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Number 2 for the first win against AJ, but after second win, everyone would say that he is Number 1
     
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  3. Wizbit1013

    Wizbit1013 Drama go, and don't come back Full Member

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    I dont like Spence but he won his world title in Sheffield
     
  4. Jackman65

    Jackman65 FJB Full Member

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    PFP is a combination of who you beat and how you beat them. If you rely on questionable decisions or cherry picked opponents, or hydration clauses, it’s less impressive. If Usyk beats AJ convincingly, it would be hard to not make him PFP#1. He’s giving up so much size and strength.

    Roided up Canelo moving up and demanding hydration clauses to beat cherry picked opponents is not the same. He would have to beat Bivol, Beterbiev or at least a top guy at SMW or LH to accomplish something this impressive. Feather fist Plant would be a good win but nothing special. Especially if the cards are questionable which we’ve seen before in Canelo fights.
     
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  5. Quina74

    Quina74 Boxing Addict Full Member

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    That is fair.. But Brook was drained and damaged goods tbh.. Don't think Spence would have fought/risked it against the Brook that beat Porter
     
  6. timeout

    timeout Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Easily, number one.

    Numero Uno

    And he didn't need Clenbuterol to do get it done either. Or the suspect judges, which clearly puts him ahead of Canelo, in all categories.

    Gold medalist
    Unified undisputed CW
    Unified HW
    Undefeated

    Clen would have to step up against Bivols and Berbetevs to come close. Or actually truly beat GGG.
     
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  7. drenlou

    drenlou VIP Member

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    Andy Ruiz beat Joshua was he number 1 too? Lol
     
  8. Braindamage

    Braindamage Baby Face Beast Full Member

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    Top 3. Although, he has an argument for the #1 spot right now.
     
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  9. miniq

    miniq AJ IS A BODYBUILDING BUM Full Member

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    Who the hell cares about these imaginary lists


    Won't stop Fury putting his fist through him, although I suspect AJ will do that for him.
     
  10. AdamT

    AdamT Boxing Addict banned Full Member

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    1 or 2
    Probably 1
     
  11. Braindamage

    Braindamage Baby Face Beast Full Member

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    Fury has Wilder issues. He needs to get his mind right or get knocked out.
     
  12. miniq

    miniq AJ IS A BODYBUILDING BUM Full Member

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    Wilder is too in love with his power and Fury's punch resistance gets better with age. Wilder won't be able to rock him.
     
  13. shadow111

    shadow111 Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Apparently AJ is trimming down for this fight. I think he knows this one could go 12 rounds and AJ has been known to gassing in the past. One thing we could find out here is how well Usyk can take a punch. If AJ can't hurt Usyk, does he have the ability to win on points without gassing too hard? I don't know what kind of work rate AJ will be able to maintain vs Usyk, I'd expect a lot of jabbing early. Usyk could try to outwork him and he can punch as well.
     
  14. African Cobra

    African Cobra The Right Honourable Lord President of the Council banned Full Member

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    Irrelevant as I don’t think he will.
     
  15. catchwtboxing

    catchwtboxing Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    You know, I really hate it when people are braggadocios in saying stupid things, and this is stupid.

    The question is POUND PER POUND. Andy Ruiz was not undefeated, undisputed cruiserweight champion with wins over five other titlists.

    You should probably learn to read, process and filter before you comment.
     
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