Joshuas poor gas task

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  1. Glenn McKrory

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    No doubt about it mate, Joshua is a great boxer. He's got his limitations like anyone else though, and it would be good to see someone like Uzyk try to expose his weaknesses.

    Maybe Joshua will expose Uzyk in the first few rounds, either way, looks like a good fight.
     
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  2. channy

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    It will be an intriguing one.

    Personally I would not rule out a usyk win.

    If history tells us one thing, and especially in boxing anything is possible.

    My pick is Usyk takes this, and he will not leave anything to chance, but who am I when listening to the expert's they sway me!!!

    Usyk win for me.
     
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  3. bbjc

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    Still dont think people fully understand the task usyks facing. Theres a reason for weight classes in boxing. Hes giving away too many advantages...and doesnt have the equalizer to bridge them advantages.

    Usyks great...hes technically better than joshua but imo he,ll be the first to start blowing in that fight. Everythings so much harder when your fighting someone that much heavier, bigger and longer than you. You need to work almost too hard to get the upperhand.

    I reckon points win joshua. Usyks good enough too stay in the fight and cause joshua some problems...but he,ll quickly find out he cant take too many risks against him.

    A lot of Usyks success comes from getting opponents working harder than they want to be working. He does it by drawing punches by being close enough to make them throw but not really close enough too take anything damaging. People say hes a slow starter but its all part of the gameplan...as long as hes got the opponent working hard...they know he,ll get them. The problem is with the reach/height disadvantage he wont be able to draw joshua to throw as much as he needs to to tire him out like he does the rest of them.
     
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  4. Scissors

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    Yeah, with Joshua you’ll always have people question his chin, heart, gas tank. Usyk doesn’t really have any weaknesses maybe a lack of power if you’re being harsh, other than that there’s nothing other than he’s going up in weight. Will that weight slow him down, make him gas, make him less durable? Let’s see.
     
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  5. Safin

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    The task he is facing is the same task the morbidly obese 5'11'' Mexican who couldn't wobble the likes of the ghost of Liakhovich faced, who ended up battering him around the ring and making him give up.
     
  6. Heisenberg

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    AJ already looking very lean and talking about Usyk being a 12 round fighter, so I don’t see him employing a gung ho approach. AJ learnt from the Whyte, Klitschko and especially the first Ruiz Jnr fight that he’s vulnerable so I’m expecting a chess match.
     
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  7. murphman22

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    Not a big fan, but this fight is in Joshua’s hands. If he holds the middle of the ring and backs up Usyk whilst throwing his hands, I see him winning. I’m not sure how effective Usyk is at heavy especially against a much bigger, powerful man.

    If Joshua tries to box Usyk then it could spell trouble for him.
     
  8. bbjc

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    Ruiz was 5 foot 11...but the mistake they all made was ruiz was heavier and stronger than joshua. Usyk isnt either of these...he also doesnt have the equalizer.
     
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  9. Safin

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    Nobody really knows if Ruiz was stronger than Joshua. Although Joshua's "size" is overstated insofar as I don't think that he's as much a naturally huge man, but more of a hypertrophic hot-sauced athlete, hence his less than impressive (although not awful) stamina. Joyce is a naturally bigger man and that is one of the primary reasons he does not have a questionable engine.

    Usyk brings a hell of a lot more to the table than Andy Rice Pudding Jr. Dimensionally, Usyk is taller and has better range. Physically, he may not be as strong, but I don't see how that matters. He has an incredible engine and his footwork is better than anyone in the division - he's so agile. His skillset is better than Ruiz and his hands may be faster than Ruiz who does have fast hands. I don't buy the argument that Ruiz definitely has faster hands than Usyk. I also think the fact that he's been around the world and has won everywhere is something he can take into this one. He's experienced and doesn't seem like he's lacking brain cells.

    Usyk doesn't seem to have a chin problem but it remains to be seen if he can get up from what Ruiz got hit by in the first Joshua bout.
     
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  10. bbjc

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    Usyks a great fighter i dont think anyone can or does argue that. But he doesnt have the big punch or the physical attributes for joshua. Predict a comfortable points win for joshua by around 3 or 4 points maybe more. He,ll cause some problems technically...but wont be able to push joshua too much. We,ll soon find out anyway. But your gonna struggle if you cant match joshua physically...ruiz did because he was 40 or 50 lbs heavier. Obviously hit him with a good shot but after that he backed joshua up. Joshua couldnt impose himself physically to get back in the fight.

    Usyk will need to go into joshuas range to get him working hard like usyk usually does. The difference is hes usually just outside of guys his own sizes range to get them working. He,ll feel joshuas power/strength early and will become more reluctant to take that risk. When that happens or if it does happen your chances of fading joshua goes out the window unless you catch him with something big. Physically an easy fight for joshua...technically will be a tricky night but one he should get through without too much trouble.
     
  11. Ty is That Guy

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    I know a lot of you guys hate AJ. But the Ruiz fight was 2 years ago and he pitched a shut out in the rematch, so get over it already. And now you are all hanging your hopes on Usyk to beat AJ even though you know AJ holds every advantage possible. Again, get over it and just watch the fight. Sitting there praying that AJ loses is insanity especially when you look at the 2 fights Usyk has had at heavyweight so far,
     
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  12. Voltz-U.K.

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    joshua on EPO
     
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  13. pizzatime

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    But you are contradicting yourself there .. we should look at Usyk's performances at heavyweight but ignore AJ's shockingly bad night against Ruiz especially as he didn't really avenge that defeat in a satisfactory way which was not at all AJ's fault it was just a disgrace the shape Ruiz was in for the rematch. I would say Usyk's first heavyweight fight looked like a guy getting back in shape and Chisora was a really tough fight to take style wise for Usyk.
    Also, Usyk does hold one huge advantage - he is proven elite level even though at a lower weight and has never been beaten. AJ has been mentally broken in a fight and has looked cautious to the point of gun-shy ever since - that is what makes this fight so intriguing. Yes, AJ is bigger and stronger and probably should win but I think Usyk will bring everything together for this, show the difference between world level and elite level and find a way to win.
     
  14. Brixton Bomber

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    Is every HW who has a rematch after losing in the first supposed to win via KO like Lennox?

    Just from how much mass AJ lost for the rematch should have signalled that he was going to be on his toes.
     
  15. Ty is That Guy

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    Stupid comment since AJ KOed Pulev, who is another top 10 win for him. Usyk has plenty of wins where he didn't KO cruiserweights so for AJ to pitch a shut out against Ruiz, does not mean he is somehow "mentally broken". I think it's guys like you who are mentally broken as you want to discredit AJ in every way possible. Get over yourself and realize that he is the best heavyweight out there right now. You can cheer on Usyk all you want for this fight, but don't run away from here after he gets KOed