Who was the earliest world champion you are convinced used PEDs?

The first person to compete in a boxing ring that is 100% sure (as in confirmed) to have been on steroids was Lyle Alzado, the Denver Broncos defensive end.

He fought Ali in an exhibition in 1979. Alzado was the first high-profile U.S. athlete to admit publicly to using anabolic steroids and said he started taking them in 1969 and did so continuously through his football career (when lasted until 1985, although he again tried to make a team five years later).

 

I believe that Lyle Alzado died from the result of that Modern (Steroids) Nutrition, I would not harm my body for any amount of money.

 

My reply from the previous earliest peds thread: "There was an allegation that Barney Malone was on Cocaine in the 1800's. They said that this made him immune to pain and utterly relentless. There's no proof though."

 

After the Roman olympics steroids were available. Your most likely candidates are the former Olympic boxers. The documented use of D-bol for the Olympic weightlifters is readily available.

 

No

 

It is still wrong, and I stick to my guns. I know about risk, I worked on a Mental Health Unit with Psychotic violent patients. i saw many Technicians get brutally harmed. But to introduce something in my body because of vanity, or an edge, no chance. I am happy with what I was born with, and I am not The Incredible Hulk, just a man. I never experimented with any illegal drugs in my younger years, Heroin, Marijuana, etc.

 

As far as future research directions go, I'm curious where people would even look for early steroid documentation in boxing. The government probably didn't look into it, and I doubt the press reported or knew about it, so you're stuck with biographies or interviews of people who saw things in that world.

 

This was from a body building forum, these guys don't seem to have an agenda about boxing but they are discussing Norton, Weaver and his brothers, and M.Spinks. One guy knew Norton from the USMC and the Weaver triplets. Nothing in this discussion that would stand up in court, but this info. is probably from guys who have used PEDs themselves.

http://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?topic=466872.0

 

Thanks. It's a shame that there's going to be so much of this info lost because there aren't reporters to interview people and verify this stuff. Just tantalizing comments on forums.

It's also intriguing how quickly the dominoes can fall once the first connection is made. Norton, for example. If he used....well, he was a training partner of Frazier's. He knew Ali. Did he trade training advice and supplier contact info with any other members of his boxing gym? We know that Ali was willing to use potions in his later years, so it's not beyond possibility that others would. Etc.

EDIT: Joe Lewis, the karate champion who allegedly helped prep Ali for Inoki, was plugged into the bodybuilding community pretty solidly. And looked like a 70s bodybuilder at a time when all the bodybuilders were on steroids. So there's potentially that avenue of entry as well. I'm sure there are plenty more.

 

Ignatius Tastletine . He used pop pellets of bull stimulant

 

If you class cocaine as a performance enhancing drug, then obviously that goes back much further.

 

The second.

So that is why he did so much better in the second Schmeling fight.

I should have known it!

 

If anything, I'd be more suspicious of Schmeling. What with being the aging, chosen representative of a totalitarian dictatorship in the country that first synthesized steroids and all.