Would Joe Frazier Stop A Prime Jeffries??

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  1. Glass City Cobra

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    It would be competitive for about 6 rounds. Lots of close range grunting, pushing, body shots, shoulder to shoulder slugging, an occasional clash of heads and downright ugly mauling tactics.

    Then Frazier's engine starts revving and he'd start landing hooks downstairs and upstairs at will. He wouldn't be able to miss Jeff if he tried. Jeff keeps things interesting with his brutish strength, uppercuts, and determination, but by round 9 he is covered in lumps and nasty dark brown bruises all over the right side of his face and abdomen.

    In round 11 Jeff's right eye is completely shut and he has to fight practically one handed because of the excruciating pain from the body shots and the fact he can't see at all on the same side where Frazier throws his favorite punch. Jeff is reduced to pawing jabs to find the range and only occasional swings to keep his opponent honest. He clinches, leans, and wrestles in a desperate attempt to slow down the Philadelphian freight train, but Frazier is like an avalanche that gets worse and worse.

    The confused ref keeps glancing at the corner wondering why the hell they haven't thrown in the towel and waves it off after Frazier smacks Jeff's mouthpiece into the 2nd row just before the end of the round.
     
  2. janitor

    janitor VIP Member Full Member

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    We also need to decide whether the fight happens in black and white, or after color had been introduced to the universe.

    That could be a decisive factor!
     
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  3. Gazelle Punch

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    Hate trying to pick winners and losers based off zero footage of a fighter…Johnson fight doesn’t count. From the little I’ve seen Frazier’s left hook is to fast. Jeffries may tie him up but everytime he does he’s eating a left hood or two
     
  4. mr. magoo

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    I think Frazier’s incredible speed, output and upper body movement would be what wins this.
     
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  5. Shay Sonya

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    Oscar Bonavena went 25 rounds with Joe Frazier so I don't see Frazier stopping Jim Jeffries who I believe was just as durable as Bonavena was. That leaves Jeffries by KO or Jeffries by decision or Frazier by decision. Or it could be a draw. This all leads to my opinion that Joe Frazier would have been busier than Jim Jeffries unless Jim slowed him down by hurting him. I think that may be what happens early on. I would say that Jeffries wins the first half of the fight in an in close war. Then Joe comes on some but not as much as he would have if he had not been damaged early. I will say Joe survives the fight and even tries to come on late but I am going with Jeffries by a decision win and I think a couple knockdowns of Joe early helps Jim Jeffries get the nod. I am somewhat guessing what Jeffries was like in his prime by watching a past his best Jeffries against Johnson.
     
  6. Richard M Murrieta

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    Joe Frazier was decked by Oscar Bonavena on Sept 21 1966, twice in the same round, but arose to win a controversial split decision. On Dec 10 1968, Frazier pounded out a unanimous 15 round decision over Bonavena to retain his 5 State Title, Jimmy Ellis was WBA champion.
     
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  7. Fergy

    Fergy Walking Dead Full Member

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    Good answer, well thought out.
    I do get biased siding with Joe a lot of the time, he's one of my favorites, but you made some good points that have me thinking...this could be a Jeffries win.
    Big Jeff was durable, he'd know how to pace a fight over a longer distance.
    Obviously he's still in against Frazier, who lives to hit that left hook, so Jeff's gonna take some deadly shots.. But he is a durable guy and Oscar managed to go the distance twice.
     
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  8. ETM

    ETM I thought I did enough to win. Full Member

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    Frazier busted up opponents. His precision and accuracy were often overlooked. The rules at the turn of the century were not as strict on stopping fights. Jeffries face would be shredded as if he lost a battle with a blender.
    It would depend on the mercy of his corner.
     
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  9. Richard M Murrieta

    Richard M Murrieta Now Deceased 2/4/25 Full Member

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    What kind of a blender was it? Did Jeffries get a serial number of that very brutal blender that attacked him? or a description? Just the facts mam. Was his name Joe? Lol. A blender Ha, Ha. I could see Sgt. Friday from the old Dragnet Tv Series asking Jeffries that.
     
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  10. Richard M Murrieta

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    Picture this, This big Pyro light show begins, there is the theme to Rocky, coming down the isle is this itty bitty Blender, I want Jim Jeffries, rrrrr it says. Lol.
     
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  11. Kamikaze

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    Smokin Joe Frazzzziiieeer

    The right style, can go as many rounds as required- just as big, more powerful and I reckon durable with I assume a better skill set.
     
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  12. scartissue

    scartissue Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    How many times have you seen Oscar Bonavena cut? He had a structure that wasn't much in the blood-letting department. Oh, he could swell, but he was blessed with good facial structure. Now Jeffries, on the other hand, if all reports were to be believed, was shredded by 170 pound Bob Fitzsimmons in a bout that would have been stopped today. I stand by my original assessment with the way Joe turned George Chuvalo's face into hamburger in 4 rounds. Big Jeff didn't have the kind of skin or bone structure to survive with Joe, who was more machine than man. But I will say Jeff would likely stay on his feet.
     
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  13. Richard M Murrieta

    Richard M Murrieta Now Deceased 2/4/25 Full Member

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    Good post, that is correct of Oscar Bonavena, he did have a tendency to swell up after many a fight. I think the most brutal fight for me was Oscar Bonavena vs George Chuvalo in 1966, The Battle Of The Indestructibles.
     
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  14. 70sFan865

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    Frazier was significantly smaller than Jeffries. Jeffries was closer to Foreman's size than Joe's.
     
  15. Balder

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    Jeff smothers Frazier in close, and was a better in -fighter. Frazier is up against a freak of nature athlete with near unlimited stamina and an Iron Jaw. Frazier smokes for 4 rounds and keeps coming, but Jeff ties him up and starts to wear him down as the fight goes on. Wrestling was a strong point of his.

    I think Frazier gets clubbed to many times and becomes easy to hit late . Jeff had solid power.
    This would be a brutal life draining fight for both men. Frazier could win on points in 12 about half the time, but Jeffries wins in 15 rounds or better every time.
     
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