Worst Boxers who could beat a greater Boxer due to matchup style?

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  1. MoneyMay1

    MoneyMay1 Member Full Member

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    What is the biggest mismatch you can make on paper that could be overcome due to the worse fighter having the style to beat the better boxer?

    Deontay Wilder is a straight up bum but I would have him favored over Joe Frazier because of Frazier's weakness vs big punchers (see George Foreman). Frazier is too short to overcome to overcome Wilder's massive right hand. I could see Wilder losing to like 10 of Frazier's opponents like Quarry or Bonavena.
     
  2. Bigcheese

    Bigcheese Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Prime Frazier would probably stop Wilder 9/10 times, he really didn't have a weak chin at all. Ken Norton is a great fighter who would lose to some lower skilled, heavy handed guys. Wlad K lost to Ross Purity.
     
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  3. janitor

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    I could see Ken Norton losing to some people who were not worthy to shine his spit bucket.
     
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    I can see Max Baer beating a lot of good swarmers.
     
  5. cross_trainer

    cross_trainer Liston was good, but no "Tire Iron" Jones Full Member

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    He did beat Bobick, mind you...
     
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    Showstopper97 The Icon Full Member

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    Mayorga beating Hearns
     
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  7. swagdelfadeel

    swagdelfadeel Obsessed with Boxing

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    If you think Wilder was a “bum” ydksab
     
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    Stiches Yarn Active Member Full Member

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    If Earnie Shavers caught Lennox Lewis with a lucky punch.........
    Still think the Lion takes Shavers out in the second round 9 out of 10.
     
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  9. MarkusFlorez99

    MarkusFlorez99 Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Frazier would beat Wilder to a pulp

    Also Ken Norton can loose to some medicore fighters as long as they're huge punchers. I could see Bert Cooper or Wilder or Morrison beating Norton. I wouldn't even rule out Briggs KOing him though I'd favor Norton
     
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  10. cross_trainer

    cross_trainer Liston was good, but no "Tire Iron" Jones Full Member

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    McCall was at the Shavers level, and beat Lewis. Rahman, too.
     
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    Stiches Yarn Active Member Full Member

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    Yes.
     
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  12. janitor

    janitor VIP Member

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    I am not saying that he would always lose to a puncher, I am just saying that he might plausibly lose to one, who was not in his class.
     
  13. MarkusFlorez99

    MarkusFlorez99 Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Rahman was better than Shavers, Shavers beat Norton but Norton was weak to big punchers. Rahman also beat Corrie Sanders who's arguably even more dangerous than Shavers due to his superior speed. Despite being a massive puncher, Shavers got outboxed and KO'd by multiple journeyman.
     
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    swagdelfadeel Obsessed with Boxing

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    As well as some outright bums with losing records.
     
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    HolDat Well-Known Member Full Member

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    At what weight?