Bob Foster at SMW today- GOAT 49-0

Are you going to join or just cheerlead from the stands? No thoughts of your own on any of the points I made? I thought you gave up on the conversation.

 

So that's a negative. At this rate, I'd be happy to engage anyone smarter and more informed than yourself.

 

Super middleweights as 190-pound behemoths:

It wasn't Ward when he was 176 for Dawson.
Dawson himself was only 185.
Not Calzaghe when he was 176 and 179 for Starie and Woodhall.
Neither Toney nor Jones.
Lacy was 179 and 181 late in his career.

I think maybe one side is more prone to exaggeration.

 

Found one!

Vassiliy Jirov:
6'2"
Toney 188 194
Letterlough 190 194
Brown 188 192
Williams 188 192

Remember that time Jirov was a super middleweight?

 

Look at you growing! You made an argument!

Prove to me Foster will react to Tibau's regimen the exact same way. Prove to me he wasn't a Hugo Pineda. Prove that Foster trained up, not down to 180.

I never said Foster couldn't make 168. Check again! I already provided some weights for notable super middleweights. Where are the 190-pound monsters? You'd be hard-pressed to find a light heavyweight who weighs in at 190 pounds. I only have Dawson at 191 against Glen Johnson.

 

I'll plead ignorance on the sport, but I'd also guess MMA is less cardio intensive compared to pure boxing.

 

If you go back to my first post, you'll find that I answered the thread question.

But I see that once again you've reverted to throwing questions back at people and waiting for better debaters to bail you out.

Tibau trains for a different sport and has more mass to lose.

 

That's cute, maybe learn how to debate next time.

 

The whole concept of how fighters approach making weight has changed dramatically. From his first day in the gym, if Bob Foster started boxing in 2010, he would be constantly tested to see how low he could get- and that is fighting in the amateurs with same day weigh ins. At a young age he would probably hit 140 and they would test it out in sparring, maybe in tournaments because losses don't count and you are trying to build something.
To hit 147 for about 1 minute and then have 36 hours to regroup? Not out of the question. And, keep in mind, Hearns did well at cruiser with much bigger guys than Doug Jones, who stopped Foster.

 

Except that the weigh-in procedure for amateur and professional are totally different. Even if you assert that Golovkin and Foster are roughly the same size, Golovkin was only briefly a welterweight as an amateur and never one as a professional.