I really don't rate Calzaghe what about yous?

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  1. ChrisJS

    ChrisJS Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Calzaghe had a Hopkins fight, I believe in 2002, I think it would have occurred in 2003. Hopkins negotiated with Showtime and Warren & Calzaghe gave into everything. Showtime would overpay Hopkins for Hakkar, then one more fight, then Calzaghe for $6m and Hopkins agreed. Then all of a sudden he comes back asking for double so Showtime pulled out.

    When they did fight eventually, you think that was a war? I thought it was terrible.
     
  2. George Crowcroft

    George Crowcroft He Who Saw The Deep Full Member

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    Snarky little gobshite, Chris. Snarky little gobshite.
     
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  3. McGrain

    McGrain Diamond Dog Staff Member

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    I loved Calzaghe-Hopkins too.
     
  4. George Crowcroft

    George Crowcroft He Who Saw The Deep Full Member

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    Another false equivalency. Dawson started his career at 19 years old, and moved up extremely quickly. He never stayed at middleweight with an intent to compete their for his career. Eubank obviously had an easier time making 160, and 168. And again, it's blatant that Eubank clearly wasn't close to being anywhere near as weight drained as Dawson was. It's a dumb comparison.
    Disagree, I had Joe winning with or without the deduction.
    You're the not the brightest are you?
     
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  5. cross_trainer

    cross_trainer Liston was good, but no "Tire Iron" Jones Full Member

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    From what I remember, 168 was pretty popular during the latter part of his reign, at least as far as fan interest goes.
     
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  6. Joe.Boxer

    Joe.Boxer Chinchecker Full Member

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    Both Jones & Hopkins pussied out of boxing him in their prime.
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    #168GOAT
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    ...and he did it all with glass hands and a musician for a trainer.

    Deal with it.
     
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  7. Bokaj

    Bokaj Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    I remember it mostly kicking in with the Super Six, but I wasn't paying as much attention myself during Calzaghe's time tbf. But what scalps at that weight has really stood the test of time bar Kessler and Eubank, who was getting on a bit? The win he has over a quite good prime fighter is really Kessler.
     
  8. THE BLADE 2

    THE BLADE 2 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    He is not an ATG
     
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  9. Oddone

    Oddone Bermane Stiverne's life coach. Full Member

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    Would you rate him over a Prime Roy Jones jr, at 168?
     
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  10. Bokaj

    Bokaj Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Eubank went down one weight class to face Calzaghe and went up two weight classes straight after, so I think Dino has a case when suggesting he might have been tight at the weight. He was also getting on in years, so it's hardly the Eubank of the early 90's we're talking about here.
     
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    Read Joe's book. His old man was sick of him pulling out. Heck, Enzo told Joe that if he didn't face Lacey, because Joe was trying to pull out, he'd quit being his trainer!

    Joe was a bottle job, period.

    Funny how Joe got over his fear of flying when RJJ was absolutely finished...
     
  12. Bulldog24

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    He was unbelievable.
     
  13. JohnThomas1

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    @Boxed Ears - eat your heart out!
     
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  14. BCS8

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    He never fought a prime Roy Jones, and a prime RJJ never fought a prime Calzaghe. All we can say is that when shopworn versions of themselves met, Calzaghe clowned Jones. I think zaggers resume at 168 is better than Jones' resume.
     
  15. Fergy

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    Good post.