Has AJ cherrypicked Usyk?

Discussion in 'World Boxing Forum' started by GotchaHat, Sep 24, 2021.


  1. GotchaHat

    GotchaHat Well-Known Member banned Full Member

    1,549
    1,244
    Jun 7, 2021
    Let's be honest, Usyk hasn't looked that great at Heavyweight, bit slow and no power. But he looked sublime at cruiser. I reckon if Usyk looked amazing at HW, Team AJ would not have took this mando and dropped the belt
     
  2. fitzroy boy_iron mike

    fitzroy boy_iron mike Active Member Full Member

    1,009
    747
    Oct 26, 2005
    That's why he didn't blow out the Witherspoon and Chisora bums. You seen usyk play with Joyce? He's fine with the heavies... This will be wobble wobble AJ after 7
     
    Leeroy84 likes this.
  3. mark ant

    mark ant Canelo was never athletic Full Member

    36,654
    16,559
    May 4, 2017
    He had to fight him, the WBO ordered it, he took the fight after Fury pulled out of his figt to meet AJ.
     
    kriszhao and Bumnard_Hopkins like this.
  4. Conteh'sLeft

    Conteh'sLeft Active Member Full Member

    955
    1,651
    May 23, 2021
    Just tell me this, who else would you see him fight with right now ?
     
  5. Vegan Beast

    Vegan Beast Grandpappy Ortiz Full Member

    4,070
    4,311
    Aug 19, 2020
    Not really, Usyk is a mandatory. Usyk is far from the easiest fight he could have taken.
     
    iii and Eastern Iron like this.
  6. Vegan Beast

    Vegan Beast Grandpappy Ortiz Full Member

    4,070
    4,311
    Aug 19, 2020
    Exactly. He can't fight Wilder or Fury, so the next in line would be Usyk.
     
    Eastern Iron and Conteh'sLeft like this.
  7. GotchaHat

    GotchaHat Well-Known Member banned Full Member

    1,549
    1,244
    Jun 7, 2021
    Whyte rematch
     
  8. Surrix

    Surrix Boxing Addict Full Member

    5,822
    2,116
    Sep 16, 2020
    You call Chisora as a bum?
    Yeah, he never was champion but most likely he does have more $ than Usyk and Loma together today.

    Remember ( boxing fans does have very short memory and are lazy as hell ): Fury went full 12 rounds vs Chisora in their first fight. Whyte get interesting decision in their first fight and had been looser vs Chisora on 2 judges scorecards before he landed on Chisora in their 2 nd fight.


    For sure Chisora was so bummy: he earlier had British and Commonwealth titles.
    It is nothing for sure : World Champ or bum , no other options here?
    U normally will call guy who had such titles as a bum just cos he is maybe between top 10 and top 20?
    World champ or bum, 0 other options here. '
    If Chisora is so bummy, why Parker who is larger and younger than Usyk had struggled with him even more than Usyk?
    By logic should had been otherwise.
     
  9. Conteh'sLeft

    Conteh'sLeft Active Member Full Member

    955
    1,651
    May 23, 2021
    Really?

    At least have some conviction, do you really think a Whyte rematch would absolve Joshua of cherry picking in your eyes?
     
    deadACE, Eastern Iron and Bokaj like this.
  10. mark ant

    mark ant Canelo was never athletic Full Member

    36,654
    16,559
    May 4, 2017
    Usyk won more rounds v Chisora than Whyte did before the KO.
     
    senpai and MarkusFlorez99 like this.
  11. Slyk

    Slyk Boxing Junkie Full Member

    8,699
    4,384
    Dec 5, 2010
    It's definitely a good challenge for AJ. On paper he should win, but there are only a few guys I'd say are more of a threat to him than Usyk right now who aren't Fury/Wilder.
     
  12. lufcrazy

    lufcrazy requiescat in pace Full Member

    80,672
    21,288
    Sep 15, 2009
    If he has its a dumb cherry pick cos he gonna get sparked
     
  13. MarkusFlorez99

    MarkusFlorez99 Boxing Junkie Full Member

    14,186
    16,255
    Jan 13, 2021
    Excuses, Usyk is a former undisputed cruiserweight champion and handled Chisora significantly easier than both Whyte and Parker. This is no cherrypick
     
    Mr Icaman, iii, Toney F*** U and 3 others like this.
  14. BubblesUK

    BubblesUK Doesn't buy hypejobs Full Member

    4,027
    7,278
    May 6, 2021
    Of sorts...

    AJ tends to time his fights pretty well - opponents have often declined more than their reputations have, and I think Usyk is no different (this doesn't mean they're not difficult fights, just not as difficult as they would've been in their primes).

    That doesn't mean Usyk isn't still potentially dangerous, but he's still got a significant reputation intact despite not having been in a fight he was in any danger of losing for about 3.5 years, not having looked sensational against gatekeeper Chisora and having a style more susceptible to declining sooner than fighters who rely on pace and stamina less...

    Of course, when AJ wins (I have this 70/30 for AJ) there will be all kinds of cries of how this was a cherrypick and how prime Usyk would've won - and both of those statements would probably be true, it's just not convenient for people to acknowledge them yet.


    Don't make the mistake of thinking Usyk doesn't know all of this... He's fully aware that he moved up late, but I suspect this is the fight he moved up for, having been the best at CW and with no mega money fights available, it makes personal financial sense to cash out at heavy against a massive cashcow, even if you have a 50/50 chance of winning at best.
     
  15. fitzroy boy_iron mike

    fitzroy boy_iron mike Active Member Full Member

    1,009
    747
    Oct 26, 2005
    I was addressing the OP and saying that Usyk didn't blow out those bums. If he'd have blown them out then he wouldn't have got the fight. Like PAC did Vs cotto