Has AJ cherrypicked Usyk?

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  1. Surrix

    Surrix Boxing Addict Full Member

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    3X better than Parker and I had been shocked, before their fight I had assumed that Usyk being smaller and older will perfom vs Chisora worse than Parker.
    Yes.

    I have this 90/10 for A.J to win but I fear to place real money bet: there bad gas tank might appear or glass chin.
    If no, by 90% A.J must win this one.
     
  2. StiffJeb

    StiffJeb Member Full Member

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    Uh, I'm so sick of people repeating the same 'he hasn't looked that great at heavyweight', it's literally the same quote being passed off as personal insight by basically every mouth that's moved.

    He has looked fine. Witherspoon was a nothing replacement fight and Usyk just toyed with him. Nothing bad to say about it.

    Chisora is a very tough, very heavy guy. Hits hard, and has decent skills when he's been training properly. He's a top ten heavyweight right now, and would technically be top 5 if he was given the Parker win he earned. He clearly brought his best performance that night and all it got him was a few early rounds. Even then, most of the shots weren't scoring shots. Usyk outpointed him clearly, was never in trouble, and managed to hurt a very durable heavyweight at several points even on the backfoot. Usyk was also injured in both arms for this fight and took it anyway.
    How is that a bad win?
    Who has looked better against Chisora aside from Fury - who demoralised a much less enthusiastic Chisora with his massive reach and height advantage?

    But for the question proper: no. There has been a lot of cherrypicking in AJ's resumé: old men with names, no-names that Eddie convinces otherwise. This is the exception. It's a fight he was largely forced into, and I suppose AJ himself felt he wanted to prove himself this time round. Maybe if Usyk banged Chisora out in a round, AJ would be less keen, but I don't think you can call this one a cherrypick.
     
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  3. Rakesh

    Rakesh Well-Known Member Full Member

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    This forum is weird, goes from Joshua will get knocked out by Usyk because he's to skilled and Joshuas a bum. Now its "AJ cherrypicked Usyk". If AJ beats Usyk everyone is going to call Usyk a bum.
     
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  4. Heavy_Hitter

    Heavy_Hitter Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Wilder cherry picked Fury
     
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  5. Surrix

    Surrix Boxing Addict Full Member

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    I think he had won vs Helenius and Whyte 1 st fight on my cards.
    Who had called him as a bum?

    Facts are facts: Ruiz Jr was not able to finish 40 y.o shot to pieces uncle Arreola while had mopped floor with tested in US A.J.
    Uncle Nistor had contributed to this legacy.
     
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  6. StiffJeb

    StiffJeb Member Full Member

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    It's because people have different views. Fortunately this isn't reddit where certain opinions snowball with upvotes and everyone ends up thinking the exact same way.
     
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  7. MarkusFlorez99

    MarkusFlorez99 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Pretty stupid to think Joshua cherrypicked Usyk though
     
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  8. Safin

    Safin Boxing Addict banned Full Member

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    The victor has to be given credit, and if it is indeed a good contest worthy of the excitement I've felt for a long time, then a rematch would also be good. I'm not as obsessed with Fury vs Joshua as most other people, and would equally like to see Usyk vs Fury, even if Usyk is comprehensively beaten by Joshua. I think Usyk would stand a great chance against Fury.

    This is a good contest and I hope it will be as entertaining as Klitschko vs Joshua was, which is my favourite heavyweight bout in recent memory. The styles are contrasting, both are in good shape, both seem to respect each other's ability.

    Joshua may feel like Usyk is a cruiserweight and that he has been quite inactive and untested at heavyweight, but that doesn't mean it's a cherry pick. Usyk will also fancy his chances considering what Rice Pudding Ruiz Jr done to Joshua.
     
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  9. Vegan Beast

    Vegan Beast Grandpappy Ortiz Full Member

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    Whyte lost to Povetkin. Whyte has some to prove, I'd like to see him fight a big name after his next fight vs Wallin.

    Maybe if Usyk loses to Joshua, then Usyk vs Whyte for mandatory?
     
  10. Reinhardt

    Reinhardt Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Chisora is not a Bum, he's a well past it B type fighter who's level is now around C.
     
  11. Geo1122

    Geo1122 Active Member Full Member

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    Usyk looked better than Parker and Whyte against Chisora, and those 2 are top 10 heavies, with Whyte being top 5. Make of that what you will.
     
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  12. Showstopper97

    Showstopper97 The Icon Full Member

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    I knew this was gonna happen. Now that the fight is near, people are desperately looking for ways to discredit AJ if he wins.

    I quoted this on another AJ-Usyk thread when ppl were making the typical excuse of Usyk getting robbed in the fight.
    Excuse, after excuse after excuse. It never ends...
     
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    Lesion of Doom Boxing Addict Full Member

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    New account designed to troll. Y'all shouldn't give these types of OPs any attention.
     
  14. mark ant

    mark ant Canelo was never athletic Full Member

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    It`s a mandatory.
     
  15. BubblesUK

    BubblesUK Doesn't buy hypejobs Full Member

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    True.

    On the other hand, I don't think it's unfair to say that Joshua could've had this fight a year or more ago and showed no interest in it until Fury was forced to drop out...
    Waiting for someone to age and decline (which Usyk seemed to have by Chisora IMHO despite still winning and probably has further now) is not exactly cherrypicking the fighter, but it is cherrypicking the moment.

    I think you could argue that AJ held off accepting this for as long as reasonably possible for that reason and whilst Usyk is still a threat, he'll be less of one than he would've been a few years ago.


    It's a bit like Wilder with Fury the first fight, just without the inevitability - Wilder didn't cherrypick Fury the fighter based on what he had been, he cherrypicked Fury in the moment because his condition was shocking and he underestimated what Fury could be again.
    This is different because AJ could only have avoided Usyk by losing or dropping the belt, but that doesn't mean he hasn't had the situation tailored to his advantage.

    YMMV