Usyk has just beaten Joshua by a clear decision

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  1. cross_trainer

    cross_trainer Liston was good, but no "Tire Iron" Jones Full Member

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    Should have beaten 76 Ali, who, whatever his flaws, was undisputed champ. At least according to a pretty decent number of boxing historians these days. And getting blasted out by Foreman at least means that he got to the position where he was good enough to fight for all the marbles. A position he reached twice.

    Holmes I grant you was a belt holder fight. But he took Holmes right to the brink, and Holmes was better than anybody on Joshua's record, IMO.

    That the 70s were overrated, I also grant you. But in terms of accomplishments, I don't think Norton was too far off from current Joshua.
     
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    cross_trainer, Sep 25, 2021
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  2. Gazelle Punch

    Gazelle Punch Boxing Addict Full Member

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    To be fair a LHW did move up and beat Vitali who doesn’t belong w the other two maybe.
     
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  3. salsanchezfan

    salsanchezfan Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    True, just a jab at the entirety of the whole " bigger is better, modern training trumps all, blah blah blah" crowd.
     
    salsanchezfan, Sep 25, 2021
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  4. cross_trainer

    cross_trainer Liston was good, but no "Tire Iron" Jones Full Member

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    Oh yeah? Well...um...AJ was robbed! So there!
     
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  5. salsanchezfan

    salsanchezfan Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Didn't even watch it. No interest in modern boxing, no idea who any of these people are. I'm just crotchety and old enough to feel indignant about most things.
     
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  6. Slyk

    Slyk Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Usyk has always, and will always be a better boxer and athlete than AJ. Him beating AJ doesn't somehow make Golden Era HW's better. Usyk is the evolution of the sport (ALL sports evolve, deal with it). There was something a lot closer to AJ in the Golden Era than there was Usyk, making your theory absurd. If anything, this proves the opposite.
     
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  7. MarkusFlorez99

    MarkusFlorez99 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    How is Usyk more technically evolved than prime Ali ? Im just curious
     
    MarkusFlorez99, Sep 25, 2021
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    salsanchezfan Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    No, they don't all evolve. Nothing has to evolve simply because it exists, don't be absurd. Some things degrade and fall away too.
     
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  9. Slyk

    Slyk Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Boxing is a global sport now with 10x the pool of talent, 1 million x the footage, and decades upon decades of experience and development from where it was in the 70's. If you can't see the brilliance and extremely high level stuff Usyk is doing in the ring then I can't help you.

    It's fine if people want to believe that all the best HW's ever happened to be born in one area of one country in one decade, but that's not reality.

    Ali KO1 Usyk, happy?
     
    Slyk, Sep 25, 2021
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    I am forced to agree.
     
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  11. MarkusFlorez99

    MarkusFlorez99 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    I do see the stuff Usyk does. He'd easily be a hard night for Ali but I just want you to break down how he's technically better than Ali. Because thats something i don't see
     
    MarkusFlorez99, Sep 25, 2021
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    Omg you guys are so stupid. I always said that Aj sucks ass.
     
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  13. Slyk

    Slyk Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Has boxing degraded and fallen away? I think top boxers from 2020 are more skilled than top boxers from 1970. The fact that no one will convince a certain group of people of this is why we made a forum just for you guys.
     
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    Well guys to those who scoffed at my double bet My first choice Olexander Usyx has just beaten Joshua. Looking good for Caleb Plant !!!!!! WAR PLANT !!!! SPANK OLD GINGERS ASS !!!!! I'll be happy
     
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  15. cross_trainer

    cross_trainer Liston was good, but no "Tire Iron" Jones Full Member

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    All you need to know is their weights and bench press totals. Watching the actual fight is for old timers and nostalgists.
     
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