Joshua's mindset and confidence issues

Discussion in 'World Boxing Forum' started by dragon666, Sep 25, 2021.


Page 1 of 2
  1. dragon666

    dragon666 Active Member Full Member

    973
    1,074
    Apr 28, 2021
    I think after the Ruiz Jr loss he tried to become a better boxer from the rematch onwards and he never fully ingrained into his new style.

    He lacks confidence in his ability to take a punch which is quite clear because he's more hesitant to get involved in an exchange. He seems less explosive now so i don't know what's changed in his training regime.

    After round 2 i thought Joshua looked befuddled and never had any clue how to download the Usyk code. It's like he was trying to figure out a complex equation and he had this bewildered look on his face for the entirety of the rounds.

    His movement seemed a bit slower than usual but Usyk probably made it seem worse.

    I think mentally he won't ever fully recover from this. I mean he could bounce back against an inferior level opponent for a confidence builder but i think his days are now truly numbered.
     
    dragon666, Sep 25, 2021
    dragon666, Sep 25, 2021
    #1
    cross_trainer and gollumsluvslave like this.
  2. chico g

    chico g Let's watch some Sesame Street...lmao Full Member

    10,847
    12,221
    Oct 18, 2008
    His punch resistance has been depleted.The best version lf Joshua happened before Klitscho, this version is like 80 % what he once was.
     
    chico g, Sep 25, 2021
    chico g, Sep 25, 2021
    #2
    Babality and dragon666 like this.
  3. miketysonko

    miketysonko Boxing Addict Full Member

    4,371
    317
    Dec 29, 2006
    When Joshua gets hit, he looks like a deer in headlights, shade of Wladimir.
     
    miketysonko, Sep 25, 2021
    miketysonko, Sep 25, 2021
    #3
    Payback87, AdamT and dragon666 like this.
  4. theanatolian

    theanatolian Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

    17,823
    6,342
    May 2, 2015
    He was just up against a superior fighter. That’s all there is to it.
     
    theanatolian, Sep 25, 2021
    theanatolian, Sep 25, 2021
    #4
    Eel87, Payback87, cross_trainer and 2 others like this.
  5. senpai

    senpai Boxing Addict Full Member

    5,188
    6,889
    May 18, 2021
    Just look at his body language shortly after the bell. He was happy that he survived that round and than he was sitting in his chair for 5 minutes. What else can you say about him.
     
    senpai, Sep 25, 2021
    senpai, Sep 25, 2021
    #5
    miketysonko likes this.
  6. Cally

    Cally Sand...sand... nothing but sand! Full Member

    1,738
    2,027
    Sep 12, 2015
    No, he's definitely suffering major confidence issues in comparison to the fighter he was pre Ruiz, no doubt about it.

    he's scared to get hit, scared to commit , he's just scared in there now.

    Which obviously ruins a fighter.
     
    Cally, Sep 25, 2021
    Cally, Sep 25, 2021
    #6
    miketysonko, dragon666, sasto and 1 other person like this.
  7. Slyk

    Slyk Boxing Junkie Full Member

    8,818
    4,571
    Dec 5, 2010
    The only answer now is to hire Fast Eddie Chambers as his head trainer.
     
    Slyk, Sep 25, 2021
    Slyk, Sep 25, 2021
    #7
  8. Sap1en

    Sap1en Well-Known Member Full Member

    1,713
    1,589
    Dec 1, 2020
    Hate to say it but Povetkin destroyed his Chin.
     
    Sap1en, Sep 25, 2021
    Sap1en, Sep 25, 2021
    #8
  9. On The Money

    On The Money Dangerous Journeyman Full Member

    29,548
    14,145
    Apr 4, 2012
    Only Wladimir at 32 had superior footwork, jab, left hook and right hand to Joshua.
     
    On The Money, Sep 25, 2021
    On The Money, Sep 25, 2021
    #9
    miketysonko and cross_trainer like this.
  10. miniq

    miniq AJ IS A BODYBUILDING BUM Full Member

    48,060
    28,031
    Oct 23, 2011
    he knows he cant pin usky down so had to box with him

    If he sat on his shots he'd miss and gas

    Same thing happened to wlad against Fury

    he doesnt trust his chin enough to chase after Usyk like Chisora did

    Imagine what Fury would do to him? it would be embarrassing
     
    miniq, Sep 25, 2021
    miniq, Sep 25, 2021
    #10
    miketysonko, AdamT and dragon666 like this.
  11. Babality

    Babality KTFO!!!!!!! Full Member

    29,429
    15,343
    Dec 6, 2008
    Teddy Atlas. Just to fire him up.
     
    Babality, Sep 25, 2021
    Babality, Sep 25, 2021
    #11
    miketysonko, Eastern Iron and cross_trainer like this.
  12. DavidC77

    DavidC77 Well-Known Member Full Member

    1,929
    1,624
    Aug 30, 2018
    Watching the fight reminded me of something Sugar Ray Robinson said:

    “You don't think. It's all instinct. If you stop to think, you're gone.”

    because Joshua was the complete opposite of this.

    He seemed to have to think and make a decision before he threw a punch.

    There was nothing instinctive about his performance.

    He might win the rematch but the flaws and deficiencies are there and they'll be exploited by someone else before long.
     
    DavidC77, Sep 25, 2021
    DavidC77, Sep 25, 2021
    #12
    Payback87 likes this.
  13. FastSmith7

    FastSmith7 Boxing Addict Full Member

    6,462
    9,597
    Sep 16, 2017
    The version before Klit fought bums, come on.
    Aj is a great fighter, he gave Usyk problems and Usyk is an ATG. I knew it'd be comfortable for Usyk but stop hating on AJ. He has the best resume at HW.
     
    FastSmith7, Sep 25, 2021
    FastSmith7, Sep 25, 2021
    #13
    Eastern Iron and Eel87 like this.
  14. FastSmith7

    FastSmith7 Boxing Addict Full Member

    6,462
    9,597
    Sep 16, 2017
    He's not, he was commiting plenty vs Pulev so don't give me that. He fought a smart fight vs Ruiz and then got beaten by one of the best of all time in Usyk.
     
    FastSmith7, Sep 25, 2021
    FastSmith7, Sep 25, 2021
    #14
  15. 3rdegree

    3rdegree Boxing Addict banned Full Member

    7,276
    9,451
    Aug 23, 2014
    The eyes never lie. In between rounds, Joshua's had a strange look in his eyes, I wouldn't describe it as fearful, but damn near close.
     
    3rdegree, Sep 25, 2021
    3rdegree, Sep 25, 2021
    #15
    Eel87, AdamT and dragon666 like this.
Page 1 of 2