Can we agree now that AJ sucks and wilder would kill him

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  1. catchwtboxing

    catchwtboxing Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Apparently Molina and Szpilka were all wrong for Wilder.
     
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  2. G Man

    G Man Boxing Addict Full Member

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    I agree, that proved to be the case.
     
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  3. NEETzschean

    NEETzschean Well-Known Member banned Full Member

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    Old shot Molina was beating Fabio Wardley before his chin and heart gave out and Szpilka was like a bargain Usyk with speed, slickness and southpaw stance. Wilder was winning both fights on the cards, the Molina fight by a huge margin and both got KO'd in 9.

    If you're a plodder with a chin problem, Wilder will land and take you out. I wouldn't like AJ's chances in this hypothetical matchup.
     
  4. JMotrain

    JMotrain Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Wilder might in fact be shot. I would like to see how he does against Fury in the rematch but he didn't look particularly good in the Fury rematch. His legs seemed to give out in the second round. People are forgetting Wilder is no spring chicken at 36.

    AJ has a good 5 years in youth on Wilder and he has also fought (and beaten) the better competition. I think I would still favor AJ over Wilder, hell AJ might have learned from his loss to Usyk and it might make him a better fighter. He has more tools to work with than Wilder anyways, I still think he has more skill. BUT Wilder does have the eraser in his right hand but it's also possible like I said he is shot and might get knocked out before he gets to AJ.
     
  5. Rakesh

    Rakesh Well-Known Member Full Member

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    AJ loses to arguably the p4p #1 fighter in the world and now he'd lose to Wilder...
     
  6. Ph33rknot

    Ph33rknot Live as if you were to die tomorrow Full Member

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    At first I ranked
    Fury
    Aj
    Wilder
    But after the Ruiz fight I changed my **** to
    Fury
    Wilder
    Aj
     
  7. Dubblechin

    Dubblechin Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Usyk isn't rated #1 in his own division. I don't know how you can be pound-for-pound #1 and not be rated at the top of your own division.

    Which is why Pound-for-Pound ratings are, and have always been, dumb.

    Tyson Fury sits at the top of the division. He's still there, regardless of what happened Saturday.
     
  8. Rakesh

    Rakesh Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Alright and? Either way how does this conclude he'd get destroyed by Wilder? Are people saying Wilder is the same skill level as Usyk? :qmeparto:
     
  9. Dubblechin

    Dubblechin Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Fury is the same skill level as Usyk, but Fury is 50 pounds heavier and a half a foot taller than Usyk.

    Wilder floored him twice and drew with him.

    After fighting Fury three times, fighting a 50-pounds lighter and a half a foot shorter version will seem like a vacation. Plus, Wilder might even get to weigh more than an opponent for the first time in nine years.

    Hope it happens.
     
  10. Rakesh

    Rakesh Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Styles make fights. By your logic Ali should have gotten absolutely destroyed by Foreman because Foreman decimated Norton and Frazier while Ali lost to both of them. Your logic has been deprived several times throughout boxing history.
     
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  11. Sap1en

    Sap1en Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Usyk would carve Wilder apart.
     
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  12. Dubblechin

    Dubblechin Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    I didn't realize George Foreman was 50 pounds heavier and a half a foot taller than Ken Norton when they both fought Ali.

    My mistake. (That's sarcasm, by the way.)

    I know styles make fights. I also know Usyk doesn't do anything Fury doesn't do, Usyk's just a half a foot shorter and 50 pounds lighter than Fury.

    I'd love to see Wilder outweigh a future opponent. It's been close to a decade since he's been the heavier guy.
     
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  13. Dubblechin

    Dubblechin Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Well, Usyk has known where Wilder has been for the past 13 years.

    Wilder was waiting for him in the Olympic Semifinals, but Usyk lost. Wilder turned pro, Usyk remained an amateur. They both turned pro at heavyweight. Wilder remained a heavyweight. Usyk left and dropped down.

    Wilder's still a heavyweight. He and Usyk are both at the top of the division now.

    It's not like Wilder went anywhere.

    Anytime.
     
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  14. cuchulain

    cuchulain Loyal Member Full Member

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    No, we definitely can't.

    AJ is a top three and would be a clear favourite against a one-trick-pony who has feasted on little-hopers and no-hopers.
     
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  15. kiwi_boxer

    kiwi_boxer nighty night, ellerbe ☠ ☠ ☠ banned Full Member

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    To really try and define the accounts, I’m going to need you to follow each one too - just to really throw people off. You know, because people are gullible like that.

    Do you identify both accounts through the LDBC community, or just the NEET account?