How Good is Joshua ?

Discussion in 'British Boxing Forum' started by moog, Sep 27, 2021.

  1. African Cobra

    African Cobra The Right Honourable Lord President of the Council banned Full Member

    Joined:
    May 29, 2007
    Messages:
    27,342
    Likes Received:
    10,131
    It’s not over yet. He has a good 4 years left.
     
  2. Hattonmad

    Hattonmad Boxing Addict Full Member

    Joined:
    Jan 5, 2009
    Messages:
    3,647
    Likes Received:
    4,841
    I think he's very good and much improved but he's not going to get to the level of an Usyk or a Fury - two guys who've boxed from a younger age.

    I think Wilder could knock AJ out too but it's a cracking fight and AJ could land first.

    For a man who started boxing older than most, AJ has had a great career. He's had huge backing from Sky sports but delivered for them more often than not. He has some more good wins in him but I think his claim as 'The Man' is gone now forever.
     
  3. aaaaa

    aaaaa Ash banned Full Member

    Joined:
    Dec 19, 2020
    Messages:
    4,893
    Likes Received:
    9,324
    True but I can’t see him improving. If anything he’s going backwards.
     
    Oneirokritis and kevinreid001 like this.
  4. Safin

    Safin Boxing Addict banned Full Member

    Joined:
    Aug 3, 2019
    Messages:
    5,764
    Likes Received:
    7,725
    Nobody said that it was, but hyping these wins up as much as the fanboys do is becoming a good joke.

    Much improved since when?
     
    kevinreid001 likes this.
  5. Gatekeeper

    Gatekeeper Well-Known Member Full Member

    Joined:
    Oct 18, 2009
    Messages:
    2,367
    Likes Received:
    2,993
    Agree. There's no way AJ is slick enough to avoid the bombs of Wilder I mean Tyson Fury is clearly the best at HW and even he couldn't avoid them and he's miles slicker and craftier than the upright, one dimensional AJ.

    It's Fury, Usyk and then Wilder a slightly distant 3rd and then AJ at 4th in H2H matchups not necessarily achievements I'd still put AJ at 3rd.
     
    DaRealJT likes this.
  6. kevinreid001

    kevinreid001 Punchdrunk101 Full Member

    Joined:
    Nov 1, 2012
    Messages:
    2,845
    Likes Received:
    968
    A good to very good fighter who has been matched very well and at right times but nowhere near elite
     
  7. N17

    N17 Loyal Member Full Member

    Joined:
    Feb 16, 2013
    Messages:
    36,269
    Likes Received:
    33,091
    He is good, in this era very good, Lennox Lewis would have murdered him and so would have many others in the 90's.

    Forward wind a bit and a prime Wlad would have smashed him, prime Vitali would have smashed him.

    Forward wind some more, he isn't the best heavyweight in this era, I rate a few above him.


    He just has size and athleticism, his power isn't what some people believe it is..
     
    MarkusFlorez99 and Oneirokritis like this.
  8. Oneirokritis

    Oneirokritis The Scourge of Stupid Idiots. Full Member

    Joined:
    Dec 18, 2015
    Messages:
    7,333
    Likes Received:
    6,019
    Meanwhile in February 1989, Bruno went up against some guy called Mike Tyson.
     
    channy, Glenn McKrory and N17 like this.
  9. UKboxingfan

    UKboxingfan Boxing Addict Full Member

    Joined:
    Nov 28, 2018
    Messages:
    3,536
    Likes Received:
    4,446
    Fair assessment.
     
    N17 likes this.
  10. DaRealJT

    DaRealJT Boxing Addict Full Member

    Joined:
    Sep 26, 2021
    Messages:
    3,793
    Likes Received:
    7,053
    I've always thought that there's lots of interesting parallels between Fury & Joshua, with Lewis & Bruno.

    Fury is this generation's Lewis; largely shunned by the British mainstream, went on to have big fights in the US, and prevailed / will prevail as this generation's top dog. (Not saying Fury = Lewis in terms of legacy, he's not there yet)

    Joshua is this generation's Bruno; adored and backed by the British public and media, but came up short at the highest level. Although in fairness, skill and legacy-wise Joshua > Bruno
     
    Last edited: Sep 27, 2021
  11. Oneirokritis

    Oneirokritis The Scourge of Stupid Idiots. Full Member

    Joined:
    Dec 18, 2015
    Messages:
    7,333
    Likes Received:
    6,019
    This content is protected


    It might be worth mentioning that this was the shot version of Michael Sprott.

    Takes two Joshua rights, backs up to the ropes
    Holds up a high guard and abandons all hope
    Open his face is a considerable frown
    But lo and behold, Sprott does not go down
    The Sky Sports hype machine is in full effect
    So upon video's title, one must reflect:
    "90 SECOND KO! DEMOLITION COMPLETE!"
    But Sprott never touched down; he was stopped on his feet

    :sisi1
     
    N17 likes this.
  12. thistle

    thistle Boxing Junkie

    Joined:
    Dec 21, 2016
    Messages:
    8,558
    Likes Received:
    9,188
    there have always been questions about him, I personally thought he'd be the Real Deal - he won't.
    Fury too, is much improved but not 1st Class either.

    so you got a 'lesser' Bruno & Lewis or is it more an Audley and Haye?
     
    N17 likes this.
  13. N17

    N17 Loyal Member Full Member

    Joined:
    Feb 16, 2013
    Messages:
    36,269
    Likes Received:
    33,091

    Hahahaha it's just sickening the way they speak bout AJ.. "The jab of Larry Holmes, the left hook of Frazier, The power of Tyson, the agility of Ali....". And so on and so on.



    I don't remember AJ ending a fight with one shot.. like a prime Tyson would or like Wilder can do.
     
    Oneirokritis likes this.
  14. Oneirokritis

    Oneirokritis The Scourge of Stupid Idiots. Full Member

    Joined:
    Dec 18, 2015
    Messages:
    7,333
    Likes Received:
    6,019
    I don't know if it was you or someone else who mentioned this on another thread. He laid Whyte out with one shot, and that was only after he hurt Whyte and put it on him for 30 seconds. Beyond that, I'm struggling to think of any others.
     
    N17 likes this.
  15. Oneirokritis

    Oneirokritis The Scourge of Stupid Idiots. Full Member

    Joined:
    Dec 18, 2015
    Messages:
    7,333
    Likes Received:
    6,019
    I think quite a few people were taken in when Auds knocked out Danny Williams in their rematch and claimed he'd go on to become Undisputed Heavyweight Champion. I know I was. :lol: