1999 Lennox Lewis vs Sept 25 Oleksandr Usyk? How does it go?

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  1. Vegan Beast

    Vegan Beast Grandpappy Ortiz Full Member

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    Difficult to say since Usyk's chin hasn't really truly been tests, but I'd say -

    Either -

    1) Lewis KO/TKO
    2) Lewis by UD after 1-2 knockdowns
    3) 2/10 Usyk on points.

    Lewis jabs and straight rights were insane.
     
  2. UniversalPart

    UniversalPart Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    The UK does not have quality sparring.

    Lewis went to America based in Kronk, a rough area full of rough fighters.
     
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  3. funkykoval

    funkykoval Active Member Full Member

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    he he just because Usyk beat bodybuilder who lost previously to pizzaboy doesn't prove anything about him against ATG Lewis
     
  4. The Long Count

    The Long Count Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Hard to say Lewis never fought a southpaw. Rumors were he didn’t do well with them. During his time - there was Michael Moorer, Corrie Sanders and Chris Byrd. Lewis never faced any of them.
    Then is the fact he didn’t face many slick boxers either - Guys like Larry Donald or Herbie Hide that used their legs well.

    Lewis was a large man with decent boxing skills but he feasted on sluggers where he often had the size advantage.
    Impossible to really know the outcome.
     
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  5. NEETzschean

    NEETzschean Well-Known Member banned Full Member

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    Didn't Lewis get chinned in one punch by not one but two 25-1 underdogs?

    AJ is closer in ability to Lewis than Bruno, who gave Lewis fits for 7 until Bruno's weak chin and faulty engine failed him.
     
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  6. NEETzschean

    NEETzschean Well-Known Member banned Full Member

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    Lewis didn't have it all his own way with a 37 year old Holyfield who'd been dropped thrice and KO'd by Bowe 4 years prior. Holyfield was also on the cusp of losing to John Ruiz and even prime Holyfield is no Usyk. Lewis didn't fight ANY southpaws, didn't fight ANY good movers. Lewis would try to make a fight of it but he'd get schooled.
     
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  7. MarkusFlorez99

    MarkusFlorez99 Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Tyrell Biggs tried to move and pivot around Lewis. Lewis walked him down zero difficulty. Keep in mind Biggs won gold at the Olympics so that means he's incredibly skilled right @NEETzschean ?

    Also your claim of Lewis fighting no southpaws is false. Here's him destroying one
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    All you do us spout nonsense and play it off like you're smart, when you couldn't be anymore clueless.
     
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  8. The Long Count

    The Long Count Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    I won’t go so far as to say he would get schooled. Lewis does tend to get slightly overrated. But he had instinct and knew when to play rough. If it wasn’t going his way Lewis would try and push Usyk’s head down and wail away with an uppercut, or shove him into a corner. Joshua didn’t use any physicality in their bout and got taken to the shed. Lewis would realize early on what was happening to him and would try to change tactics. Would it be enough. I think it’s impossible to say. Lewis didn’t have great feet but he had a fighter’s mentality.
     
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  9. NEETzschean

    NEETzschean Well-Known Member banned Full Member

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    He would have definitely given it a better go than AJ but he's not as athletic or as skilled as Wlad according to Steward, less experienced than Wlad and never fought any southpaws or decent movers while Wlad fought loads, so the idea that Lewis should be a favourite, let alone a big favourite against Usyk is absurd. The goalposts have been shifted: AJ boxed as well as I've ever seen him box in this fight and he showed grit at times as well, yet now AJ's been massively demoted because he lost to the superior athlete and boxer. I was telling everyone that AJ was overrated (though very good) and that Fury beats him 80-20 when certain geniuses on this forum were still convinced that he'd beat Fury.
     
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  10. Themessiah

    Themessiah El Jefe Full Member

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    Huge Usyk fan but Lennox would know how to use his size and wouldn't be afraid to exchange
     
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  11. gollumsluvslave

    gollumsluvslave Boxing Addict Full Member

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    prime, focussed Lewis is a bridge too far for Usyk IMO.

    UD Lewis, possibly even late stoppage - Lennox really knew how to maximise his size advantage in a way that would make things truly herculean for Usyk to overcome.
     
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  12. alangjk

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    I got so caught up in the moment on Saturday, was starting to think that Usyk would be able to beat Dr. Manhattan on the moon. All I kept hearing before was size and reach. Give over. :p

    Because I haven't seen Usyk being knocked out yet, it makes it hard for me to imagine Lewis knocking him out. I can see it but just don't have the picture in my mind. Lewis is still my favorite for this match.
     
  13. hobby rider

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    His triangle theories are ridiculously biased yet when you use the same logic against him he goes quiet.
     
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  14. 3rdegree

    3rdegree Boxing Addict banned Full Member

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    I believe Oleksandr's skillset would be too much for Lewis to overcome. Lewis was a great fighter, but his upright static lumbering style is made to order for a technician as gifted as "The Cat." Being made to look as though he was standing in hardening cement, his straightforward, predictable style would be picked apart and slowly decimated until "big Lenny" would be staring up at the lights, first in the ring, then the doctors' office.
     
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  15. miketysonko

    miketysonko Boxing Addict Full Member

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    No doubt about it!
     
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