Tyson Fury vs Deontay Wilder 3 - Discussion and Poll

Fury decision at 3/1 I got a pound on it.

 

The more I see of the Wilder training videos, I personally think he's overtraining and him and his camp are almost seeing Fury as this mystical figure that Wilder needs to climb a mountain to beat. If Wilder gets in the ring and the 'new stuff' he's been learning does not work, I can see him falling apart very quickly and this being over within 4-5 rounds.

Fury on the other hand is just treating it as another day at the office and does not rate Wilder at all as a fighter.

 

Bold Prediction: Wilder and his coach argue in the corner until his coach storms out of the arena and leaves Wilder to fend for himself.

 

Fury will have Wilder out of there no later than the 3rd round.

 

Funny you should say it, because that's exactly what they're facing.

Last time, the holy fool came down from the mountain to consecrate the second volume of his great book. This time, Wilder's got to go up it. He and his cohort of bandits conspire to strike the revelator at his heart as he rests, but Fury sleeps with one eye open.

Whispering demons seek to sow doubt and confusion, but the prophecy will be fulfilled.

 

Even before the rematch, Wilder had let slip the concession that God (and I don't mean the charming Ukrainian fellow who beguiled Anthony Joshua this past weekend) is with Fury.

From a psychological point of view, I found that a really strange/telling thing for a guy like Wilder, who believes his own path to be a spiritually driven one, to put out there. I don't doubt that he believed in himself in a conscious sense, but, on some subliminal level, I think he knew he was up against something else this time.

 

There are some factors here that make me doubt a Fury win although I do pick him.

Fury hurt Wilder pretty badly when he knocked him down. Wilder looked hurt for the rest of the fight, but Fury was unable to put him out. Will Fury be able to deliver such a blow that will incapacitate Wilder for the rest of the fight like that? He looked like he was wounded and not himself after that punch. Maybe Fury had it easier because of that. Not taking credit from him because he landed the punch.

Wilder came within a second of KO'ing Fury in the first fight. Clearly, that right hand can still end it suddenly.

 

Considering the fact that Fury has won 14-15 rounds out of 19 and the nature of the prior beating, he obviously should be a big favorite. He should not be a Joshua/Ruiz type of favorite, but still a big one.

I'm a Wilder fan so maybe I'm thinking about this too pessimistically, but I haven't seen anything from him to suggest he has solved the issue of Fury pushing him backward. He has no hope of winning if that happens again, and it wouldn't surprise me if the fight gets stopped in 2 or 3 rounds. The body work on the pads has been pretty embarrassing, tbh.

Maybe he will jab just well enough to buy himself time to land the right hand -- it's possible -- but I might plunk down a little cash on a Fury KO in rounds 1-3. Will depend on the potential payout.

 

That first fight was his best shot at beating Fury, and he couldn't put the man away.





I'm just looking forward to seeing the Wilder saga closed and Fury moving forward.

I don't begrudge Wilder the rematch per se. It was contracted, and he retained enough nobility at the time to agree to a two-way clause. It's more the storm of circumstance and the drawing out of the episode, the stalling of Fury's momentum, that rankles. That was the version of Fury I'd been waiting for, thoroughly and correctly prepared, not operating at a meagre 60–70% of his capacity, and I was raring to see that incarnation in regular action.

 

Just rewatched the Fury vs Wilder 2 fight: scored it 57-54 to Fury at the time of the stoppage.

Note that I gave Wilder the first 2 rounds. Then in the 3rd round is when Fury landed his first knockdown which caused Wilders eardrum to burst. Subsequently affecting Wilders equilibrium and stability for the rest of the fight.

Interesting that Fury had the whole of round 4, 5 and 6 to put Wilder, who was a sitting duck, away for good. But he couldn't. Round 7 Wilders corner threw in the towel which was definitely the right decision.

I also noticed that half way through the 4th (or 5th) round, Fury started to breathe heavy and his punch output seemed like it dropped considerably.

100% this 3rd fight will be much more competitive than everybody else thinks.

 

This is the **** that started three years ago and I can't wait for it to be over.

Someone please post THE CHART listing WHAT PERCENT Fury fought at for each of his fights.

Where is this chart? I never saw it. Nobody ever brings it up for any fight. Just Wilder-Fury 1.

Fury's had 31 pro fights. What percentage was he for each? What percent Fury fought Chisora in fight 1? What percentage was Fury against Wallin? What percentage was Fury for Steve Cunningham? What percentage was Fury for Hammer? What percentage was Fury for Wlad? For McDermott 1 and 2? For Neven Pajkic? How about Firtha? What percentage Fury stepped in the ring that night?

Post the CHART, or STFU about it. Jesus Christ.

Tyson Fury had THREE FIGHTS in six months in 2018. He was the most active top heavyweight in the sport that year. And he fought great that night.

This "Fury was only 60% garbage" is the BIGGEST EXCUSE in the heavyweight division this century. Forget suits. Forget panic attacks. Saying the busiest top heavyweight in the world was only 60 percent and that's why Wilder dropped him twice is the biggest excuse of all.

People act like the drunk cow who showed up in 2016 for the press conference for the Wlad rematch got in the ring that night. Fury was sharp as hell for both Wilder fights. Wilder just didn't have a TORN BICEP in fight one like he did in fight two (which required surgery to repair).

 

He won the fight (but was robbed), he didn't need an excuse. And please, a fan of Wilder lamenting about excuses (LOL). So no, Fury's lack of conditioning was not the biggest excuse this century. It certainly wasn't the heaviest...

 

Your first sentence begins with an excuse. Good job.

No challenger has ever been floored twice (didn't drop the defending champ) and WON a heavyweight title.

Hell, if Joshua floored Usyk twice like Wilder floored Fury, and Usyk was flat on his back staring up at the lights in round 12 like Fury was, think Usyk would've received the decision Saturday?

Post the FURY PERCENTAGE CHART, or drop it.

 

The reason Tyson still won is because he dominated he rounds besides the two knockdowns, and he even dominated most of the final round where he was knocked down as well.

 

Saying someone was robbed when they clearly were isn't an excuse, it's an informed opinion. Mind you, your track record clearly displays you don't know the difference between the two. But to paraphrase a well-known saying: if the suit fits, wear it...