Has The Now Mythical Skillset Of The Gypsy King Been Vastly Overstated & Blown Out Of Proportion?

These days EVERYTHING is vastly overstated and blown out of proportion. Don't believe me? " Just wait till you see what happens next! " Seriously though, recency bias seems rampant in most casual fans with ATG lists popping up as soon as a fighter wins a pick em fight against a mediocre champion. Lets chill with the atg **** and enjoy the current era of boxing for what it is. In 20 years we will be in a far better position to evaluate the here and now.

 

Yes for a guy who doesn't have a single title defence and whose best wins are against an old, out of sorts Wlad and Streetfighter, Fury is overrated. He can be put down (and has many times), his defence isn't that great and he isn't technically as good as many make out.

All that said Fury knows how to win, how to use his size and would be a handful for any HW in history.

I expect him to beat Windmill again but wouldn't be a complete shock if he got caught by the right hand and lost.

 

This is always why I hesitate on Fury...

Boxing is fifty percent mental, the discipline, the training and lifestyle you lead outside of when you fight matters. Fury is always a question mark until the day of the match.

 

I doff my cap outta respects on using "extemporaneously" in your post, no dementia pugilistica affecting your grey cells there

 

You think Wilder lost his equilibrium? He had a cut in his ear, not a busted eardrum. Wilder falling all over the place is because he has poor balance. Tripping and falling isn't exactly a new sight in Wilders fights.

 

@CST80 - Honestly, yes. Fury is fantastic at what he does, but that is largely exposing the weaknesses in fundamentally flawed fighters. Take away his natural advantages against another elite boxer, and we will see how he stacks up.

Fury has openly said that the only man that causes him trouble is Usyk. Peter also said the only man to trouble Tyson would be Usyk...
The recent interview with Peter was full of praise for Usyk's performance and how much of a threat he is to anyone in the HW division.

Mark my words, Fury avoids Usyk like the plague. Whyte and someone like Ortiz will be next, and then Fury retires.

 

A* post.

Let me add re Furys best wins. Wlad was 39 yo who looked gunshy and pretty meh against Jennings the fight before Fury. Fury won against Wlad by one or two rounds and those rounds were won by a few scruffy jabs and inside glove /forearm slaps.

Wilder was 35 and looked like he had lost a touch (not that he had any to begin with) in the Ortiz rematch. But his power bailed him out when he landed the only punch he landed in the fight literally seconds after Ortiz was smiling and getting confident.

Fury is definitely overhyped by his fangirls.. The eye test only really counts when the opposition is at least good.

 

Fury is probably not as good as many think, but you can't blame people for being compelled by him. He has bravely marched into three fights now against the very best of the division, all while being the underdog. In every fight Fury showed something totally unexpected and highly effective.

No one thought he would outbox Vlad
No one thought he would look like a 6'9 Mayweather, win, and be robbed, in the first fight against Wilder
No one thought he would steamroll Wilder on the front foot in the second fight

Stuff like that feeds massively into hype. No other top HW has even fought as an underdog yet, much less convincingly won time and again. We'll only be able to fairly assess Fury when he hangs 'em up; he's too unpredictable.

 

Maybe you should prove that you're a boxing fan and not some blind fanboy by truly evaluating what Fury brings to the table in a thread dedicated to him instead of using it as a way of shitting on Wilder in a passive-aggresive manner.

And who knows, maybe one of the guys Fury beat in the last 5 years may yet prove to be just as good as or even better than one of the guys who made it to your "quality fighters" list.

 

What do mean "shitting on Wilder" his thin resume is clear for all to see.

If say Wallin does go to beat Whyte for example then fair enough I'll hold my hands and say I called it wrong. However I heavily favour Whyte to win as when Wallin fought Fury he was ranked outside the top 40 and still his best career win to date is against a poor Breazeale.

 

Funny how people are willing to accept this messaging from CST, who long has kept mostly positive in his remarks toward both Fury and Wilder (focusing his more disparaging comments mainly on AJ for the most part, during their nightmarish three-headed hydra era) but long dismissed the very same observations from me, since I've pretty much always pissed in everyone's cornflakes and declared all three of them unworthy bums and the division nearly bankrupt of real talent (before Usyk's arrival), with AJ the least of their sum evils (closest to my stylistic preference but still quite wide of the mark himself; but at least unlike Wilder applied himself to learning to actually box a bit, and unlike Fury willing to not just stay active but consistently seek out challenges, at least post-Molina) but still very much not my cup of HW tea...

Oh well, guess it's true what they say that you catch more flies with honey. Important thing is that people start to internalize that messaging that no, Fury isn't Ali 2.0, he isn't un-outboxable, or else a lot of you are going to have strokes if and when he and Usyk do link up for the undisputed crown.

 

Fantastic post, sir. Quality.

 

I watched Tyson Fury box Wlads head off throwing a handfull of punches with 1 hand behind his back whilst Wlad gawped and faltered for 12 rounds solid.

The stuff of legends.

A man who can destroy the greatest of foe's without even throwing a single punch is the greatest of warriors.

Even Lord Usyk pays homage to The Gypsy King.

 

I rate Fury highly but in the past I've been calling him overrated too and a lot of people just shrugged it off. Funny how all the sudden people are in agreement about it.

He's highly skilled but I've broken down his overrated resume and nobody has yet to prove me wrong. Past is Wlad, avoided the obligated rematch, beat Wilder (who himself has only beaten Ortiz), Chisora. it's a good resume but it's somewhat thin. Had Fury fought multiple top opponents back to back instead of nobodies in between big fights he may have lost already, hell he had trouble with a cherry pick in Otto Wallin so who knows

 

And 99% of HW boxing discussion has been dominated for the last several years by those three cults, at first a trio of vocal minorities but then growing to an all-consuming trident-pronged majority, and the division has become so acutely factionalized that when a true independent like myself dared utter anything suggesting that one of their idols might not be infallible and doesn't pass nag champa scented wind, they would immediately swarm and accuse (and frankly, in so doing, insult the **** out of) me of being a nuthugger of one of the other two! Despite my earnest protests that, no, they're a pair of bums, too!

At last, the long awaited true messiah cometh. And it was good. And with each idol toppled it will be all the more glorious.

...until the inevitable reshaping, and then in 2025 or so there will mysteriously be zero fans around willing to admit they ever stumped all that hard for Wilder, or Fury, or Joshua. In hindsight, it will have been 'obvious to everyone' that it was Usyk's division to rule as soon as he felt like moving up in weight. That will totally not have been some outlandish pipe dream of yours truly, the habitual HW party pooper ...or something you also claimed but people probably thought (that is, irrational Wilder/Fury/Joshua acolytes) that you were being sarcastic.