A niche but impressive bragging right: only man ever to crack his era's toughest nut.

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  1. IntentionalButt

    IntentionalButt Guy wants to name his çock 'macho' that's ok by me

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    Bennie Briscoe would have the distinction of booting up for hard-brawling warfare 95 times without ever once having being stopped - if you only subtracted Briscoe vs. Rodrigo Valdéz Hernández II from existence. In fact, even The Colombian Rocky fought him thrice and never so much as dropped him in his UD over 12 in their first encounter, nor over 15 in their unifying rubber match for the vacant WBC & WBA middleweight titles. On the night of that rematch, however, Valdéz weathered a violent storm with almost two minutes of sustained heavy pressure from The Black Robot to start that seventh round, before eradicating him essentially with a dozen or so blows starting with a mean check left hook on the zygomatic bone from which the Philly slugger probably never fully recovered. Just like that, he takes away the claim I'm sure Bennie would have been happy to hold onto as part of his legacy.
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    Then you have Tögstsogt "King Tug" Nyambayar spoiling Juan "Fénix" Ruiz's chances of riding off into the sunset with his loss column unadorned by parentheses. (after some forum dweeb called IB had spent the better part of a decade crowing about the Mexican-American journeyman having the p4p best chin in the game and in fact being nigh unstoppable)

    Of course, the archetype of these is arguably also the most famous fight of the 20th century (RITJ), but let's hear some obscurer shouts.

    Preferably no padded record guys who stepped up, got crunched, and were then never seen again. (I was going to cite Joe Lipsey Jr. for an example here, but hesitate as there are quite a few people - not just keyboard experts but contemporaries and historians - who apparently believe Lipsey was in fact a tough & talented contender that B-Hop just straight-up ruined)
     
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  2. Pepsi Dioxide

    Pepsi Dioxide Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    How about John Henry Lewis getting stopped in his last fight to Joe Louis? Only stoppage loss in over a hundred fights.
     
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  3. IntentionalButt

    IntentionalButt Guy wants to name his çock 'macho' that's ok by me

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    Good one yes. And not as though JHL never fought a puncher before. Of course, no Joe Louises, but plenty of respectable sorts. Al Gainer had a feared left hook and was survived and beaten twice. Isidoro Gaztañaga was literally called "Martillo Pilón" (or "battering ram") and put Lewis down twice but not out in their split pair. Jock McAvoy, Tiger Jack Fox...
     
  4. Bukkake

    Bukkake Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Other world champs who were only stopped in the last of 100+ fights:

    Tony Canzoneri 175
    Benny Lynch 119
    Marcel Cerdan 114
     
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  5. IntentionalButt

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    Al Bummy Davis, Aurel Roma, and of course The Raging Bull taking the honors. :thumbsup:
     
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  6. djanders

    djanders Boxing Addict Full Member

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    The only time Billy Miske was ever stopped was by Jack Dempsey in 1920. He had 104 fights, including 23 after the Dempsey fight.
     
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  7. IntentionalButt

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    Third time was the charm for the Manassa Mauler, yet another feather in his cap.
     
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  8. Saintpat

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    Does Billy Fox cracking Jake LaMotta count?
     
  9. IntentionalButt

    IntentionalButt Guy wants to name his çock 'macho' that's ok by me

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    Eh, he was the only man to stop Jake in the 1940's but can't claim to be the only one to do it, period.
     
  10. young griffo

    young griffo Boxing Addict Full Member

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    I was going to throw in the teak tough Dick Tiger getting flattened by Bob Foster but a quick Boxrec check reveals he retired in a fight with the forgotten (but clearly just as awesome as Foster) Tommy West.

    On inspection West went 4-1 over his career with 3 wins over Tiger!! I’ll bet he got some mileage from that!
     
  11. IntentionalButt

    IntentionalButt Guy wants to name his çock 'macho' that's ok by me

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    There are quite a few "close but no cigar" types... Greb was stopped twice, by Chip and Graves, etc.
     
  12. djanders

    djanders Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Muhammad Ali cracked Sonny Liston and George Foreman. Both great accomplishments at the times.
     
  13. Saintpat

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    Larry Holmes by Mike Tyson, not obscure but his only stoppage defeat.

    Juan Laporte by Zach Padilla (California commission determined that Laporte had sustained a head injury sparring with Shane Mosley and retired Laporte … but he came back a few years later and lost two more fights but went the distance in both).
     
  14. IntentionalButt

    IntentionalButt Guy wants to name his çock 'macho' that's ok by me

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    Ugh, speaking of SSM, loathe to mention it but technically, while he probably ought to have gone down as someone that was never stopped, he did have that loss to Mundine via TKO due to a back injury. What a rotten piece of luck, and why on earth did it have to be Choc of all people to bag such a fat goose. :shakehead:
     
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  15. Minotauro

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    Joe Louis stopping Braddock, believe Louis cracked a few "undentable" chins
     
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