Larry Holmes vs Oleksandr Usyk?

Combinations are lacking from his game, I don't think he's as skilled as Lopez,Crawford,Inoue,Spence, or Canelo,but he is certainly physically gifted with extraordinary speed and reflexes for his size.

 

I'll give you Inoue, but I said "as skilled as anyone bigger than Loma" and Inoue is smaller than Loma.

 

Holmes is spoken about like he's undefeatable.

I'd pick a bunch of HW's over him.

 

I would only pick prime Ali to beat him. But I would pick a bunch of heavyweights to beat Usyk

 

Usyk is good enough, at 34, to do what he has done with this era of Superheavyweights. Today that is enough.

But in the 1980s he would be fighting in a HW division against men closer in skill who are younger.

At 34, usyk would struggle back then against a prime Larry. He really would.

 

Tyson would always beat Holmes due to his physicality.

I'd pick Vitali to give him kittens, Foreman too.

 

usyk would struggle with holmes jab

 

Same blend of skills, wrapped in a different strategy. Plus, less of a conservative output.

Here we saw Fury use that footwork, his feints and that jab to really up his offensive threat-level. At the same time, he was almost continuously disrupting Wilder's own offense by driving Wilder back and setting up those right-hands. But Fury also showed a wider armory than in the first fight.

Whereas Fury had, in the previous bout, focused on throwing fast one-twos down the pipe (which looked good, but we could have done with seeing a few more of them), in the second fight he was throwing shots from any place. Most noticeable was his tendency to loop his shots around Wilder's guard and then follow-up with a straight right, through the guard.


Going back to that footwork of Fury's, which he demonstrated as part of his defensive tooling, in their first fight - just watch how, in the second fight, Fury stays out of range, fools Wilder into thinking he's in range and gets him to back up, then times a sudden advance and assault. He did this over and over again, relying mainly on his major weapons, the jab and the right cross, but was also more than happy to mix his shots, as required.

It really was quite the complete performance, in my view.

 

It is all subjective you know.But personally I do not rate Vitali that highly

 

Nor do I, but styles make fights.

 

My boy xnico is back !!!

Did you see the bodybuilder get destroyed by Usyk ?

 

OK you did the math? But if so, that means this includes his weights when he was getting a bit softer. Given that he was seemingly slightly taller than Ali & more body fat at the same weight (who never lifted or was very bulky) my point stands that he has less muscle than an average modern HW. Certainly less than most any today.

 

I really feel the Usyk's victory over Joshua is causing more than a bit of bizarre hysteria here. It was a fine win, but heck, Andy actually stopped him.

I just don't see him beating Holmes, there just hasn't been enough proof, even at his (for a boxer) relatively advanced age.

Let's see him with a consummate victory over Wilder, Ruiz, Fury...any of those three. Then I'll start imagining him against the top 15 ATGs.

 

seeing the bodybuilder get pummeled by a cruiserweight put a smile on my face!!

 

Hopefully this shuts down the Joshua hype for a while. But don't get comfortable. Deontay Wilder is looking for blood. The gypsy god has to be on his guard