Golovkin / Canelo rematch seems unlikely

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  1. C.J.

    C.J. Boxings Living Legend revered & respected by all Full Member

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    So then why do you keep insisting Ginger won either fight ? Every knowledgeable fan knows he didnt
     
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  2. shadow111

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    Only knowledgable fans think Golovkin won? What knowledge requires one to arrive at that conclusion? To have such a reaction to even the mere suggestion that Canelo won, which is a statement of fact, suggests that you're very insecure about who won.

    It's also insulting to those that scored the GGG matches for Canelo to make the argument that being knowledgable about boxing and concluding that Canelo won either match are not congruent. This is a highly emotive fanboy energy that you are projecting CJ. I implore you to come to your senses and understand that the bouts between Canelo and GGG were boxing classics, matches that will forever be debated and scrutinized in the annals of the sport for generations. The disrepect that you continually show Saul Canelo Alvarez and what he has accomplished in the sport is sad. You clearly do not appreciate the greatness of this man and all that he has done for boxing. The victories over GGG are central to his rise in the sport, those wars with GGG, overcoming the kind of adversity he dealt with vs GGG and the boogeyman of the Middleweight division propelled him to super stardom.
     
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  3. IsaL

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    I guess these boxers, trainers and legends aren't knowledgeable :lol:

    Mike Tyson
    George Foreman
    Julio Cesar Chavez
    Roberto Duran
    Miguel Cotto
    Robert Garcia
    Jorge Arce
    Willie Monroe
    Caleb Traux
    Austin Trout
    Cornelius K9 Bundridge
    Andre Ward
    Amir Khan
    Marco Antonio Barrera
    Mikey Garcia
    Andy Lee
    Martin Murray
    Errol Spence
    Sergio Mora
    Bernard Hopkins
    Jorge Linares
    Peter Quillin
    Tony Bellew
    David Haye
    Floyd Mayweather SR
    Erik Morales
    David Lemieux
    Julin Williams
    Peter Smith
    Liam Smith
    Jermell Charlo
    Jermall Charlo
    Claressa Shields
    Caleb Plant
    Jason Quigley
    Anthony Fowler
    Dave Coldwell
    Badou Jack
    Jaime Munguia
    Andy Lee
    Jeff Mayweather
    Dewey Cooper
    Luis Tapia
    Ladarious Miller
    Kevin Newmen
    Rolando Romero
    Fernando Vargas
    Adam Booth
    Josh Kelly
    Jorge Travieso Arce
    Humberto Chiquita González
    Shakur Stevenson
    Devin Haney
    Gavin Rees
    John Molina
    Brandon Krause
    Curtis Stevens
    Ashley Theophane
    Abner Mares
    Michael Conlan

    To name a few
     
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  4. C.J.

    C.J. Boxings Living Legend revered & respected by all Full Member

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    When it comes to naming knowledgeable boxing fans, notice your name was not included lol
     
  5. C.J.

    C.J. Boxings Living Legend revered & respected by all Full Member

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    Read my reply to Shadow above the same applies to you ducky
     
  6. shadow111

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    @IsaL It's one thing to believe that GGG won, or to argue GGG won, but for CJ to take such a hardline stance against what happened and claim that you can't be deemed knowledgable unless you conclude that GGG won both matches, this suggests that CJ is highly invested in the G man's perception among fans. To feel so strongly about who won a boxing match, matches that were objectively close and debatable, to take it to the extent of deeming a divergent view as evidence of "knowledge" or lack thereof, that's more than just passion for the sport. That's trying to project oneself onto the world. CJ doesn't have a monopoly on "boxing knowledge" nor can he direct such knowledge on to a scorecard. We are all knowledgable around here. Yes many of us disagree often, but no one is better than anyone else or more knowledgable about the sport when it comes to their opinion or their scorecards. From one's perspective of "I'm the most knowledgable" anyone could make such an argument and project that on to everyone else. But that would portray arrogance and a "better than you" mentality that is disrespectful to other fans and to the sport itself.
     
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  7. Braindamage

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    It's on the record. 100 years from now, that is what will be said. Sure, there may still be debate, but in all honesty, the fight was not this horrible robbery, like the Campbell Hatton decision or Pac/Bradley 1. If G had gotten the decision and Canelo fans complained, I would say the same thing. Close fight, no robbery. Now, as far as me being a Canelo fanboy, I will self ban if you find a fanboy post of mine were I made fanboy claims. Like the amount of clen found in his wraps was beyond minimal. Oops, I mean in his system. Or Canelo beats all ATG middleweight.
     
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  8. C.J.

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    After both fights, polls were held here, & the average results was that 85 % of fight fans deemed that GGG won both fights 10% voted a draw & 5% voted for GINGER . I'd say that was pretty conclusive myself. Or that you believe the 5% were the knowledgeable fans. If so why are you on this forum at all if you believe 85 % here DKSAB !! ???? Answer that one
     
  9. IsaL

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    C.J. Rock has a weird obsession either for GGG or against Canelo, maybe both.

    I just posted a list of world class trainers, boxers, champions, former champions and boxing legends, that all had Canelo beating Golovkin, but in C.J.s world that is forbidden. These people don't exist, and if they do exist they are paid off by the corrupt NSAC, everyone, from Mike Tyson to SRL, to Roberto Duran, to Geroge Foreman.. to C.J. they are all either part of the NSAC mafia or just not knowledgeable. C.J. has everything he needs in this forum, a heavily pro Golovkin forum. Dare he explore other forums where Golovkin is rated accordingly and not like he is on this forum, he'd lose his mind even more.
     
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  10. C.J.

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    you believe canelo won the second fight & you are fully entitled to say so my friend. I believe GGG won both fights & the overwhelming majority seem to agree with me. That is all I'm saying . I'm sorry it got Shadow to write a mini War & Peace full of bull feces LOL
     
  11. IsaL

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    C.J., this site does not represent the world. This site is a heavily pro EU site, always has been.

    Also, I care more about what proven boxers, proven trainers, and boxing legends say 100 times more than what a bunch of internet geeks have to say.
     
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  12. C.J.

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    Show me one poll held on this subject, anywhere in the world where the result was Canelo won either fight .? C'mon Im waiting
     
  13. drenlou

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    Yep Europeanside boxing is what it is.
     
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  14. IsaL

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    https://boxrec.com/en/proboxer/348759

    That poll right there.
     
  15. C.J.

    C.J. Boxings Living Legend revered & respected by all Full Member

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    I'm a member of just about every forum I know & not one of them had a poll result had Canelo winning either fight. I'm not a fanboy like you two lol If I honestly thought Canelo won either fight I'd say so & congratulate him BUT he didn't !!!!!! lol