Fury "I’m around 20st at the moment, nice and high, plenty of weight on me"

At the end of the day didn't we alll have doubts before BOTH Wilder fights?

Wilder was the bookies choice in both fights.

A lot of people feared for Tyson in the first... look what happened. He won, but was robbed.

Look at the 2nd fight. A lot of people thought Wilder improved because of how he flattened Ortiz and came in about 18-20lbs heavier, and Fury almost got TKO'd vs Wallin...

And wilder got legally raped in the 2nd fight....

Wilder talks ****... but he's still saying **** like "Fury already makin' a master plan... TO CHEAT".

Wilder sounds like an already defeated man making excuses.

 

The first fight was absolutely a Fury win. I get that knockdowns look impressive but they don't negate a night long schooling.

 

He is mate, he gave us his list, Whyte in December, Joshua next year twice, bit of Ivan Drago inbetween and then Hulk Hogan to end it all.

Or something like that.

Trust me its gonna happen.

 

Well OK, we will do this your way, John McDermott beat Fury, No questions, it wasn't even debatable.

I suggest you watch it, so therefore if we are turning his draw in to a win, we can turn that McDermott win in to a loss.

So Fury isn't unbeaten.

 

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Look at the Sky scorecards on the thumbnail, listen to the commentary, watch the few highlights, listen to the after thoughts..

Then read the comments on that video.


It's quite clear, not even debatable that McDermott beat Fury, it wasn't even close, Terry OConnor strikes again, one of the worst decisions I've seen in a British ring.

 

Fair enough, but we all know what Fury would do to McDermott now. It's hard to believe it's the same fighter to be honest.

This Fury would get flatted vs Wilder.

What do you think of the rematch result?

 

WOW

 

It’s much harder to get up off the floor when you carry that much extra weight.
If Wilder can knock him down he might not get that big aze up this time

 

True but it might also mean he absorbs Wilder's power better, eats his right hand smiles back and hits him back.

Plus Fury has figured out by pushing him back he takes away Wilder's power as Wilder can't get the same leverage or momentum in the right hand.

 

Fury tends to lie a lot

 

I was only responding to the "Flawless" comment, Furys record isn't exactly "Flawless"..

It's very good, he has a couple of excellent wins, I also believe he won the first Wilder fight, I didn't think it was that close.

But if people want to start ignoring the official results and rewriting records then you also have to ignore Furys official result against McDermott and rewrite that.

And Yes, it was a lifetime ago and Fury has gone on to become a two time world champion, still officially undefeated and he corrected those questions in the rematch with McDermott.

 

People talk about the McDermott bout as if it was a robbery - it could have went either way.

That's what happens when you are in competitive bouts relative to your level at any given stage of your career, unlike the likes of Joshua who was put in with overmatched opponents right from the off.

 

Naaah sorry mate, that wasn't an "either way" fight, McDermott won that's fight.

Again, it's not remotely the Fury we have today, but to say his record is "flawless" simply isn't true, firstly he has a draw, I didn't agree with the draw but it's official.

All I'm saying is.. if we are going to start rewriting Furys record and changing that draw to a win then we have to also go the other way too.

 

I'm not positive but I don't think the extra 7 pounds was added to his chin.

 

Apparently, a champ at lightweight and a champ at super lightweight is a total mismatch, too, as Teofimo Lopez wants to fight Josh Taylor at 138. (LOL)

He's willing to go up "three pounds" but Taylor needs to come down "two pounds." Meanwhile, they're both walking around at 160 or 170 pounds.

"We can fight for both titles, both undisputed titles," Lopez recently told IFL TV. "And we can do it at the interim weight of 138 or even 139 pounds. I'm ready to go up a little bit, so ... He should go down one pound. Or 137 and a half. It's either that or that. If Leo Santa Cruz and Gervonta Davis could do it when they had WBA belts at 130 and 135 pounds, why can't we fight for undisputed titles at catchweight and the winner will be the undisputed champion in both weight classes?"

Give me heavyweights like Wilder any day of the week. Oh, you want to outweigh me by 20, 40, 60 or 100 pounds? I'm still going to knock you out anyway.

Not ... "I won't fight you unless you promise to lose two pounds otherwise it's not fair."