Rank these fighters as defensive skills

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  1. Mighty

    Mighty The Gypsy King banned Full Member

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    Mayweather
    Canelo
    Usyk
    Fury
    Pacquiao
    Lomachenko

    My rank:
    1-Mayweather
    2-Canelo
    3-Lomachenko
    4-Usyk
    5-Fury
    6-Pacquiao
     
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  2. IntentionalButt

    IntentionalButt Guy wants to name his çock 'macho' that's ok by me

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    You actually put them in almost correct order, just flip Pac and Lomachenko and drop Canelo to second to last just above Pac.
     
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    Showstopper97 The Icon Full Member

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    1 - Mayweather
    2 - Loma
    3 - Fury
    4 - Canelo
    5 - Usyk
    6 - Pacquiao
     
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    Mayweather
    Canelo
    Fury
    Loma
    Usyk
    Pac
     
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    IntentionalButt Guy wants to name his çock 'macho' that's ok by me

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    ...actually maybe Loma third and Fury between him and Canelo at #4.

    Let me stew on it awhile.
     
  6. Wildcat

    Wildcat Ted Grant banned Full Member

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    Lol at Fury higher than Canelo. Fury's level is barely higher than Pac here.

    1-Mayweather
    2-Canelo
    3-Lomachenko
    4-Usyk
    5-Fury
    6-Pac
     
  7. tinman

    tinman Loyal Member Full Member

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    Absolute bull**** to have Pacquiao last here. May I remind you all that his level of opposition shits on all these fighters.

    You see, Pacs defensive flaws were exposed on the ATG level by multiple ATGs in or near their prime.

    Where were Pacquiaos defensive weaknesses below the ATG level? Step down a notch against the likes of Cotto, Hatton, old Mosley, old DLH, etc. Where were the defensive deficiencies there.
     
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    tinman Loyal Member Full Member

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    Ahhhhhh bull**** and you know it. Loma couldnt even defuse a relatively inexperienced 22 year old in Lopez. The dude ran away literally.

    But Pac standing toe to toe shoulders squared up against Barrera, Marquez and Morales and getting nailed means his defense is worse than Lomas?
     
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    IntentionalButt Guy wants to name his çock 'macho' that's ok by me

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    Pac being put last in a field of six where he's being thrown in with five boxers known (to varying degrees) for their defense isn't an insult per se; if anything take it up with the OP strangely including Pac on such a list. Saying he isn't a defensive wizard isn't a knock on him, and saying his defense wasn't the strongest in a group of six particular boxers who, except for him, are or for parts of their careers have been lauded for their defensive prowess isn't disparaging him or even saying his defense was all that bad, so much as illustrating that his getting bunched in with them is an odd choice.
     
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    tinman Loyal Member Full Member

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    That's like saying Tommy Hearns had a weak chin. Uh, no he didnt, that's ridiculous. It's called fighting Ray Leonard and Marvin Hagler. If thats the caliber of opponent that exposes your flaws and deficiencies then you must be really good at boxing.

    Yea, put it this way. Pac went through Cotto like a knife through butter. And Cotto was a step down from Pacs Featherweight competition, in a big way I might add. Now think about this, that same Cotto is LEVELS above Anthony Joshua, Canelos has beens, Teofimo Lopez, etc. Which gives you an indication of the caliber of opponent it took to expose Pacquiaos flaws.

    So I agree the whole thing is silly to include an offensive fighter in this comparison.

    But let's be real, look at the caliber of fighter it took to expose Pacquiaos flaws. Put Roberto Duran and JCC Sr on Loma and Mayweather. Put Hearns on Canelo. Put Frazier on Usyk. It's not so easy now is it?
     
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    Hearns was rocked and dropped by many lesser fighters than Hagler and Leonard, hence the reputation.
     
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    Loma
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